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thought we'd put all this behind us,why can't people just get along :(
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http://www.ntlworld.com/news/story_u...toryid=6143182
thought we'd put all this behind us,why can't people just get along :(
In this case as in many others........Religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by gripper103.2
The orange people (umpa lumpa's) could'nt get down a road so instead of just moaning they called for help and trashed the place. Just shows where their beliefs lie......not in peace or tranquility but in violence and hurt.
Jonno :cool:
Edit: In fact, why do they have to have these marches? I mean you got all these years of fighting between the 2 factions yet they still insist on marching through teritory which is deemed "Unsafe" for them. Personally I see it as a wind up, an attempt to see if they can get a response. They know full well what can happen when they go on a march, simple advice would be "Don't go on a march in that area".
Why shouldn't they? It's all the same country isn't it? Why do others object?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
When l was a little kid we often visited our Catholic family members in Belfast, and they, and all the neighbours would stand in the street and wave at the Orange parades.
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
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Originally Posted by JPaul
And your point is?Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
The FACT is that the orange march often starts trouble, reguardless of which side actually starts. So the best thing to do is don't cross the territory, they are 2 seperate peoples whether right or wrong thats a fact and they know by marching through the other factions area can cause trouble.
Got naff all to do with "Why should'nt they" they should'nt because it causes trouble. Duh.
Jonno :cool:
Jonno,
He's trolling, you know that as well as I do.
Yeah I know, so am I ;)
:lol:
Jonno :cool:
Bullshit! They're the SAME people from the SAME country, if they were allowed to march in THEIR country there would be no trouble, unless the other side started it. So why should they be stopped from doing something they have been doing since 1796?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
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Originally Posted by JPaul
:lips:
Yet if Chelsea supporters marched round Millwall what would happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
Same people, same country.....think about it, don't be so naive :rolleyes:
Jonno :cool:
Why would there be trouble if Chelsea supporters marched around Millwall?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Ok I'll just go on the obvious fact you live in a tiny village on a small island populated only by vegetarian pigmys who like flowers :) ........and spend your evenings watching the umpa lumpa's march along the road from your neighbourse doorway :)
Jonno :cool:
So you've realised that Millwall Football Ground isn't in Millwall then?
Did you know that Chelsea Football Ground isn't in Chelsea either?
Ah I see, so we now sway off onto a different topic because you can't think of a good enough answer, ok :)
Did you watch the cricket this w/e? aparently it was quite entertaining :D
Jonno :cool:
Politics and religion , can't fuking stand either of them . Half the time I don't know one side from the other in the news .
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3...22067156fd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Jonno :cool:
But l did answer, you said there would be trouble if Chelsea supporters marched through Millwall, l pointed out that that was not true, as Millwall FC is not in Millwall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
l've already given you my view on the NI issue, or are you trying to dissuade me?
No, I am trying to get you to see my view.
You understood perfectly what I meant by the chelsea,millwall thing.
Ok Football/soccer supporters, if one teams fans such as chelsea fans marched through the grounds of Millwall fc while millwall fans were present there would most likely be trouble no?
So you saying that because they are from the same country and they should be allowed to do it is irrelevent, the fact is that it can and does cause trouble. Trouble which could be avoided if they simply took a different root.
Now, do you see my point?
Jonno :cool:
l saw your point in your first post Jonno, l just don't agree with you that they should march elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
No, you replied to me with these questions.
I've answered you and up until now you have not said that you understood what I was saying, instead you decided to pick out part of an analogy I used and say it was wrong.Quote:
Why shouldn't they? It's all the same country isn't it? Why do others object?
Therefore you have not seen my point otherwise you would not have asked those questions.
Jonno :cool:
They were rhetorical question Jonno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
And this was rhetorical?Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
Jonno :cool:
Just because a society have been around for a long time, does not mean its right for them to march where they are not welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
I take it you believe the KKK should have every right to march through deprived areas of Georgia too?
If the Orangemen have to march, they should stick to the areas where they are supported. Likewise if the Nationalists have to march, they should stick to the areas they are supported.
Personally, I dont see why either side have to inflame things.
i think the should march, but softly
no wait, i changed my mind, they shouldn't march.
How the fuck can you compare Irish Protestants to the KKK?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rat Faced
When their actions promote hatred against another section of society, the comparison is quite apt. The fact that you can't see it speaks volumes about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
Trolling again? Why don't you try to find a job, it can't be easy living on the dole.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
Back to your usual form, I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
Can't supply an answer so you resort to insults.
How pathetic.
You expect civil replies to your insults? Just what status do you believe being a mod confers on you?Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
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Originally Posted by whypikonme
Lets explain this so you can understand Mr.Onme.
It's like when you march thru this forum, what happens? same thing ;)
Jonno :cool:
Fucking brilliant. :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
If that post had made any sense l'd have considered replying. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme
Good thing you didn't reply :blink:
Maybe you should look up the definition of 'reply' grammar buoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
tsk children purleeeeze!!!
Actually, this thread makes me consider that this is precisely why different factions and groups cannot seem to get along together. Each has their own view and is unwilling or unable to even acknowledge that others might have a point. Intolerance and bigotry on all sides (even if only purpotrated by a few) will inevitably (it seems) lead to violence, either of words or actions.
The 'agree to disagree' mantra is not operating well within the confines of this forum, so what hope is there in the real world?
Why would I do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by whypikonme