New Ram, Timming haven't changed.

I just got this ram (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...Z%20Technology
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product..._3200_platinum)
and sure enough the ram timings haven't changed, they're still 3-4-4-8. Anyone know how I can unlock the bios? I have an "MSI AMETHYST M" mobo. It's an HP comp btw. (Media Center PC M7330N)

Specs:
MSI "AMETHYST M" Mobo (MS-7184)
OCZ Platinum EL 2-3-2-5 (supposed to be)
OCZ Modstream 450 Watt PSU
Seagate 250GB SATA Harddrive
e-VGA 6600GT PCI-E Video Card
AMD X2 4200+ (Manchester)

e/ Also, is there any benefit from getting this ram if the timings are still the same? I'm left here wondering whether i've wasted my money. :dabs:

if it's an hp pc i'm sure ur bios is locked and u'll never be able to get better timings.

What the fuck good was it to get new HQ ram then... Fuck. :angry: :frusty:

time to build ur own?

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Originally Posted by mr. nails

time to build ur own?

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Nope.

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Originally Posted by mr. nails

time to build ur own?

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Nope.

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lack of knowledge? lack of funds? lack of interest?

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Nope.

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lack of knowledge? lack of funds? lack of interest?

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1. Hell No
2. Yes
3. Pretty much, why bother when I already have a pretty decent comp. In the future I might just get another mobo and a case, gut the current one and toss it in the garbage. It's so small its ridiculous.

Did you replace the RAM that came with the PC or simply add the new sticks to them?

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Originally Posted by clocker

Did you replace the RAM that came with the PC or simply add the new sticks to them?

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Replaced em, I put them in the same blue ram slots that the other ones were in. :frusty:

I've found a nice little app called "Memset" which allowed me to set my ram timings. Heres what I got it to right now http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9837/membq4.jpg

When I set the CAS Latency to "2" the comp freezes so I'll keep it at what it's at now. Do you guys have any recommendations for what to set some if not all the "Subtimings" settings to?

Try setting the "Command Rate" to 1T.

How are you benching this rig to check if the changes help or hinder?

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Originally Posted by clocker

Try setting the "Command Rate" to 1T.

How are you benching this rig to check if the changes help or hinder?

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I haven't benched it, what program do you recommend I use? also I've changed the command rate to 1T and it hasn't froze :D I shouldn't mess with any of the subtimings settings?

Also are there any programs that allow you to change voltages for your ram?

I believe that voltage options must be enabled through the BIOS, and yours certainly lacks this feature.
Motherboards that possess all the bells and whistles ( voltage adjustments being one), will also require more power connections from the PSU- all that current has to come from somewhere.
Everest Home Edition has memory read/write and latency tests that are a reasonable indication of your progress.
Memtest is the standard stability test.

If I may ask...what the hell are you doing?
Hotrodding a prebuilt is sheer masochism.

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why bother when I already have a pretty decent comp. In the future I might just get another mobo and a case, gut the current one...

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Please don't.
A large part of what makes your PC "pretty decent" is it's stability and reliability- the very two things you're about to compromise in favor of a little performance boost.
Go ahead, add more RAM, but don't sweat the timing.
The jolt you'll get will be from size, not speed, that's all.

In a perfect world, you'd be able to leave the HP as is and build a separate play toy but that is apparently not an option.
It seems you've already replaced some of the original parts anyway so just swapping out motherboards would be your best bet.
Get a DFI Expert and go nuts.

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If I may ask...what the hell are you doing?
Hotrodding a prebuilt is sheer masochism.

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Over time I got sick of HP's utter stupidity as far as their stock hardware went so it just had to be changed. As far as getting another mobo goes, that will come along way down the road, as I don't plan on doing anything else with this thing for now. If you saw a picture of the inside of my case you'd be like "What in the fuck..." everything's crammed big time and I seriously doubt the airflow is adequate in it... anyways here's a benchmark shot:

http://show.imagehosting.us/show/184...-1_1844854.png

Something I never noticed was that its apparently running at "DDR 398" wtf? how can I get that to DDR 400?

that is kinda gay. what's the bios say? man, u mite as well buy a cheap mb. u'll be happier. u could prob get one for $50 and then a chassis for $50. sell some blood for money if ur short.

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that is kinda gay. what's the bios say? man, u mite as well buy a cheap mb. u'll be happier. u could prob get one for $50 and then a chassis for $50. sell some blood for money if ur short.

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I cant get any of these features in the bios, so I have to do it the "soft" way. I'm not in any mood to haggle the folks to get more crap for this comp. :dry:

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that is kinda gay. what's the bios say? man, u mite as well buy a cheap mb. u'll be happier. u could prob get one for $50 and then a chassis for $50. sell some blood for money if ur short.

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I cant get any of these features in the bios, so I have to do it the "soft" way. I'm not in any mood to haggle the folks to get more crap for this comp. :dry:

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Haggle what folks? :blink:

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I cant get any of these features in the bios, so I have to do it the "soft" way. I'm not in any mood to haggle the folks to get more crap for this comp. :dry:

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Haggle what folks? :blink:

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My parents....

I wasn't aware that you were supposed to have the ram sticks in this configuration http://www.guru3d.com/admin/imageview.php?image=5080 In order to have them running in dual channel. The ram this comp came with was side by side, my particular board runs dual channel like that.

yeah, i believe it's slot 1,3 for performance and 2,4 for stability. maybe i'm wrong, but yeah i've also heard of mb's running like urs is also which i don't understand. i guess it's just the mb's way and shoulda been specified in the mb owner's manual.

The slots used for dual-channel vary depending on the board.

I've never heard anything about different slots for performance or stability though. That would require different timings depending on the slot used which would screw things up if you used all 4 slots.

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I've never heard anything about different slots for performance or stability though.

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The DFI Lanparty series of boards can be very sensitive to DIMM pairs- so much so that on the forums it's common to list not only the specs of the RAM but also the slot pair (yellow/orange) used.
I think this is more of a POST issue as the pair used will vary depending on the brand of memory. I believe most of these issues were fixed via BIOS updates- have you explored that possibility?