Strange Sound, Screeching Songs...et Cetera

I use Kazza Lite since a half year and i had not any problems.

since yesterday i had this problem:

I download a music track. the track plays 13 - 17 seconds in good quality.
After thos 13 seconds the sound changes to a strange loudly noice!!!
the last 10 seconds of the music track are good.
I hab this problem by EVERY DOWNLOADED music track!

please help me, i dont know what to do!

thanks kain!

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I'm having the EXACT same problem. it only started this morning for me. I had figured they were ripped from copy protected cds, yet it with a ton of music and no one seems to notice.

most of the filenames had strange numbers in front of them too, like (303) and (972). beats me :(

Does this happen with all mp3 files, or just newly downloaded files? Secondly, what program are you using to play them?

for me, newly downloaded files. played with wmp, winamp, and k++ 2.0.3 (wmp too).

I download 5 new music tracks, and some older, but evertytime i had the same problem.

I openened the tracks with the windows media player an quick time.

I have already reinstalled Kazaa Lite an installed it again,but nothing.

sorry i am new, but waht ist riaa?

i had exspecially problems with every version of this tracks:

Lumidee - Never leave you

and

Joe Budden - pump it up

ciao

If it's only newly downloaded files, I would tend to agree with muscleman. The record companies plant bad copies of files on filesharing networks, especially of newer stuff. Keep trying different songs just to see, older stuff you can usually find without problem, just to make sure that's what it really is.

Try downloading a very popular song. One of which you know it isn't a fake. Like something from the rolling stones. Those usually have lots of sources.

If that one is messed up too, then you might have some kind of virus.

I highly doubt its a virus on the clients computer. i've tried on numerous computers and have gotton the same results.

I feel either most of the songs have been ripped from copy protected cds, and the user probably failed to listen to the entire song, and just the first 13 secs of it,

or

They have a virus that alters the mp3 file, and also puts that (292) type number in the filename. Good thing you cant store a virus in an mp3 file, since its an encoded stream of sound.

After searching a bit, i've found versions of the song that remained unaltered ;)

I'm having the very same problem with the Shania Twain song "Forever and For Always". I've tried downloading it over and over, but the sound after a few seconds is SCARY. Anyone know of a good version, which won't destroy my ears?
Thanks!

I am having the same problem.

All newly released songs are doing this.
I can't find a good version of Love at 1st site by Mary Blige.

I remember reading something about how the RIAA is going to make viruses that slow down music downloading and redirect you to pay-per-track music services. Maybe you guys downloaded a virus from them that corrupted your mp3s or maybe they hacked into ur computer and did that? I dont know, but I also remember reading an article about how the RIAA wants to hack into ur computer and delete all copyrighted Mp3s. :angry: I really don't know what the prob is, but mayb it has something to do with a virus or a damaged mp3 codec...

same here songs that are new sound good about 13 sec then quit or sound like skipping and squealing. winamp slider bar goes backwards and time jumps around like crazy. tried in all my players and same thing. mp3 i have had before this happened all work. i tried to get a song i have downloaded before same song and file size, so it was the same one and now it doesnt work?? can get it i think riaa is on the move. oh ya and they do seem to have them numbers in front mostly?? (600) (601) ...and so on. i tried some older ones and most of the time they work.virus check with norton came up with nothing??

I got the same problem right now. I downloaded the Lumidee - Never Leave You track and I too get the same noise. Other MP3s work fine though.

You most likely got a fake file placed on FastTrack by RIAA. My suggestion is to just download the file again. About people having the problem on all the MP3s, my suggestion is to uninstall any codec packs you may have and reinstall them again. Maybe this is happening from a damaged codec file.

Working on the assumption that this problem is caused by the sharing of fake files by the RIAA (which, of course, isn't definite), one would assume that they would create the fake files for the most popular versions of the new releases. For example, I tried downloading Marilyn Manson-mOBSCENE...the first 5 files i tried--those with the most users sharing them--all had the weird noises. Then i picked a file that had only 3 users, no problems. I might suggest if you have a slow, crappy connection like mine, to go for some of the less-shared files if you can get a good connection to other users...those are the ones less likely to include a fake.

RIAA - These are bad people you'd want to hate.

It could be from them but I wouldn't think so. It could be the file is corrupted or damaged or something. Just a suggestion.

i have also noticed that when i click the plus sign to see the sources from the search list. that some files are different sizes? i would guess that these files are not all the same and may have somthing to do with the sound i am getting . not a techie so just a guess. but before i remember all the songs under a given title would have all the same file size example 50 users for say a song click the plus sign all have the file size 4,555. now i get 4,555 - 4,733- 4, 455 and so on ?? how could thay be same song if different sizes?? is this normal?

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Originally posted by arlosoft@6 July 2003 - 21:27
I might suggest if you have a slow, crappy connection like mine, to go for some of the less-shared files if you can get a good connection to other users...those are the ones less likely to include a fake.

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People have been told on this forum to download files with the most sources. Since it is more likey that those are the files that you are looking for. I'm surprised to find out that a file with 99 sources could be a fake file. Do people actually listen to their MP3s when they download them, or do they just leave the file available for download even though they know its a fake?

I expanded the file (clicked the plus sign) of the song i had searched for, and saw the same thing that peeweefresno mentioned. On a file that had 89 users sharing it, i counted at least 5 files that were of a different size than what the listing that shows file info and number of users said. Also, it showed multiple instances of a file from the same user, sometimes the same size, sometimes not. This might be caused by one downloading a file, realizing it's corrupt, then trying to download another version without deleting the initial file/moving it out of shared folder. I did this, didn't even think about deleting it until i saw i was uploading it to someone else.

I'm not sure how the network determines which files are which, pulling bits of information from different sized files which are supposed to be the same would definitely cause a problem...dunno if it would be the weird sound and time thing we've experienced.

good question xstacy but i think those files worked before like i said i downloaded a file last week it was good tried agian this week didnt work? i think there might be a few corupted files with the same name and when u get the mutiple source downloads u get a bit of the ones that dont work. the file size that worked is the same i tried today and doesnt. and also as stated earlier they seem to have different file sizes under the same file when u click the plus sign. i could remember before they all had the same file size under a given title with a plus signin the search. agian just guessing but does anyone remeber them being different sizes and working??

im not sure if this is at all relevant to this topic but last week i downloaded a evanescence tune and the first 10 seconds are perfect

then it goes mad wiv some phone dial up thing in the track proper loud

argh the noise of dial up is annoying god bless cable modem :D

ya thats the noise. good description have u got anymore recently? most of the new song i try do the same. damn the riaa they got to be behind this one. more and more people will be writing in this forum i bet. as soon as they get a few of these. k- lite people out there is this a problem for a few or do we all have it ?? Lumidee - Never Leave You (Uh Oh).mp3 4,105 just one of the song i cant get. can anyone tell me if they can download it with no problems?

does this happen on kazza too or it just kazza lite? dont use kazza and im tempted to install just to see but dont want all the junk that comes with it. winmx seems to work tho still no probs there. if anyone is using the real kazza and getting this i would like to know.

I figured it out.

After doing a search. Check the filename. If it has a number in ( ) then it is bad.

For example:

(722) Lumidee feat. 50 cent - This would be bad

Just don't download the ones with the numbers in ( ) at the beginning of the filename

yes the numbered ones dont work but this has only happened to me in the last few days. i never had this prolem before and plus the file size mismatch whats happening there? i think this problem will get worse as time goes on. and still has anyone had this problem on the regular kazza? or is it only a kazza lite problem? if this continues there wont be any good songs out there in a months time. and buying a cd for 15 bucks to get one or two good songs really sucks. its better to get a preview and get the cds that are worth there money.

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Originally posted by peeweefresno@7 July 2003 - 05:03
and still has anyone had this problem on the regular kazza? or is it only a kazza lite problem?

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Kazaa and Kazaa Lite use the same P2P network, FastTrack. So if there's fakes on Kazaa there is fakes on Kazaa Lite since they both download from the same network. Get It? ;)

i got it but i thought maybe it was the way kazza lite finds songs in the search. like i said the file sizes dont match so they shouldnt be under the same file with the plus sign. just a thought but i think the file size mix up is the problem? again no techie but it makes sense to me.

1. Its not a virus, viruses cannot be stored in MP3 Files
2. It has nothing to do with kazaa or kazaa lite, both are on the same peer network

They probably just ripped it from a protected cd and people failed to listen to the entire song and those that are downloading it, fail to delete the corrupted song.

After all: "We expect volume shipments of protected CDs to ship commercially in the U.S. as early as the May-June time frame using the SunnComm solution," Auty wrote. [ http://news.com.com/2100-1027-994565.html ]

Also: "Songs on a MediaMax CD-3 can be uploaded only three times, and software built into the disc prevents listeners from copying or sharing the music."
[ http://news.com.com/2100-1027-1022369.html ]

...maybe thats where those strange (405) numbers are coming from too?


Hell, maybe its somethin else, like the RIAA.. Boo!

i think that cable modems use the sounds like on a dial-up too. If you have ever tried listening to a data cd you get the same thing. i have noticed this has happened when i download a song at a very high speed. when i download it at a slow speed (by using only one source) it dosent do this. i think it is a malfunction somewhere between the cable modem and kazaa where its recording the data sound some how.

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Originally posted by Mofo@7 July 2003 - 01:44
I figured it out.

After doing a search. Check the filename. If it has a number in ( ) then it is bad.

For example:

(722) Lumidee feat. 50 cent - This would be bad

Just don't download the ones with the numbers in ( ) at the beginning of the filename

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Yeah that seems to work for me. Noticed that thing with the diff file sizes too. Been tryin to d/l Lil'Mp 21 Answers but it always had that weird noise. Fine now.

bumpin this post because it seems more and more people are starting to get this.hopefully somone from kazzalite will see and tell us what the problem is. still think its the mismatch file sizes under the + sign in the search window. cant kazzalite fix this by making sure they all have the same file size????then maybe wwe can filter these bad files out

I've also been having another problem that started the same time as the messed up songs. Occasionaly when I'm listening to a newly d/l Mp3 that does work, it will be playing fine, and then it makes that sound for like 3 seconds, and my comp. shuts off. I restart, play the song, no problem. A bit later, on another NEW song, same thing. (Just happened to me with Jay-z ft. Pharell - Excuse Me Ms.). Anyone else experience this, or is this just something completely un-related?

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Originally posted by kayosdrone@8 July 2003 - 04:37
They probably just ripped it from a protected cd and people failed to listen to the entire song and those that are downloading it, fail to delete the corrupted song.

After all: "We expect volume shipments of protected CDs to ship commercially in the U.S. as early as the May-June time frame using the SunnComm solution," Auty wrote. [ http://news.com.com/2100-1027-994565.html ]

Also: "Songs on a MediaMax CD-3 can be uploaded only three times, and software built into the disc prevents listeners from copying or sharing the music."
[ http://news.com.com/2100-1027-1022369.html ]

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Interesting reading, looks like their up to date. although we can always record it via analog from a cd in to the input jack and then share it I guess.

At least untill someone writes a hack program to allow ripping of the copy protected CD's, since it appears to be software that is on the CD's itself that causes all this.

I must admit this is a good move on their part, and if you were them, you'de do the same. Though I wouldn't expect it to be to long before a work around shows up. Possibly a simlpe software that records instead of ripping, though it may drop the quality a tad.

it seems like all the files that make that screeching file everyone is talking about, swimgrl777 is on it. check EVERY lumidee song, swimgrl777 is on it. i dont know if this is the problem but ive checked different songs and they all have this user!!!!!!!!! and they dont work!!!!

Same thing with me when I downloaded a song by Mya.

As i thought they are using 2nd session recording techniques.

Normal cd players ignore the data track, like Muse:Origen of Symmetry, that had flash stuff etc on the 1st data track. play it in a normal cd player and it ignores that track. but shove it into a pc and it plays the track and ignores the audio.

A program called cloneCD can bypass this since u can vote to ignore the 1st data/session track. i made a perfect 1:1 audio copy of the muse cd - the flash stuff at the front.

If thats what they are doing, but instead putting very poor quality mp3's onto the disc instead. tho i read there that they are working with m$ to make it so u cant copy it more than 3 times. answer just use another OS simple rip it then dump it.

Xan

I hope i'm not making a mistake here but doesn't KaZaA search for files based
not on their names or sizes but the UUHash code attached to it?

I say this because verified downloads sites operate on the principle of checking
a particular copy of a file (the verification) and posting the UUHash code for your
P2P prog to hunt for. If I download a file with code 'x' and then change the
filename and/or it's contents, would the resulting file maintain the same UUHash
and begin contaminating the P2P network when it searches?

To simplify...

The RIAA search the network for the best quality copy of, say, a 50Cent track.
They download it, f**k it up and resend it, anonymously, through various sources.
People then searching for this actual file may get, say, 10 sources...
seven original good ones, three corrupted RIAA propagated ones...

Is this feasible? :">

NO, once the file is changed, the hash is changed as well, The idea here is the original file is corrupted from the original CD, which has data on it to prevent it from being ripped, though the go around may be simple. Although, since this is new, alot of these will float around untill people relize they are sharing garbage, and firgure out the go around.

Just so you guys know, Kazaa isnt the only file-sharing service being affected by this problem. IMESH also is having the same problem with the scratching noise. I've downloaded at least over 40 David Banner - Like a Pimp songs and I've really only found one decent one that has like 4 seconds of scratching. The guy who says that only the files with parenthesis and numbers are bad is wrong because...well after 40 versions of the same song but different file name you really dont notice a pattern. I would say it is the RIAA trying to crack down on piracy (Did you guys hear about some guy wanting to charge $1500 for every downloaded file???) and obviously theyre doing a good job because its affecting everyone. Its BS and I'm almost tempted to just go and buy the David Banner cd...but I cant, because thats what they want...its the reason theyre doing this in the first place. Anyways they can kiss my ass because I know one of you hackers will find a way around this crap and help us all!!! ....I hope :unsure:

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Originally posted by Muffkatty@14 July 2003 - 09:09
Just so you guys know, Kazaa isnt the only file-sharing service being affected by this problem. IMESH also is having the same problem with the scratching noise.

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Well, if I am not mistaken they are both a part of the Fast Track Network, hence same files and users.