"The Willow and goul" by The Vergent Tallion.

This is my latest work

this is a question to all of you here who decide to read this.

As far as the shadows cast, the enravelling producers fast, even i thy be yourself says i, will welcome any predatory self says thy. When the creatures rest their willowfull wings, their chief calls out and sings, "This willowfull land that follows your wings, seems to be one of many derelict things, "no!" said i, pretrude the mountains and i shall be blessed. As far as you sing, the willowfull will rest.

by The Vergent Tallion

this is a sort of metaphoric question, those who understand it and those who dont please express your views.

Where is Cheese when he is needed?:)
Sorry the whole thing makes no sense to me.:(

I think you would really have to read it in the original Nigerian to get the proper sense.

For example he has used one "word" on three occasions which doesn't actually exist in the English language. Now I realise Shakespeare did that all the time, but let's be fair it's not exactly Shakespeare.

It's also difficult to see which particular poetic form he is going for. Perhaps he can enlighten us.

In short, it's just rambling.

Please consider my view expressed.

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Originally Posted by Chip Monk

I think you would really have to read it in the original Nigerian to get the proper sense.

For example he has used one "word" on three occasions which doesn't actually exist in the English language. Now I realise Shakespeare did that all the time, but let's be fair it's not exactly Shakespeare.

It's also difficult to see which particular poetic form he is going for. Perhaps he can enlighten us.

In short, it's just rambling.

Please consider my view expressed.

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yes "willowfull" is an old shakespearean word used in a few extracts, it is not written to comply with a form, and i appreciate your view, it is "rambling" to most people, but i would be right to think that most people here would not have extensive knowlege of metaphoric poems.

"thy be yourself" ?

Surely you joust...:whistling

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Originally Posted by j2k4

"thy be yourself" ?

Surely you joust...:whistling

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no i do not, it is although based around the medieval era.
please dont forget that this is a serious discussion.

What about "enravelling" and "pretrude", are these also old Shakespearian words.

Not really seeing the metaphor you are grasping at.

Like you said I have no knowledge of metaphorical poetry, so to me it's just bunkum. Looks like an attempt to write it in a pretentious manner, but bunkum none the less.

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Originally Posted by Agrajag

What about "enravelling" and "pretrude", are these also old Shakespearian words.

Not really seeing the metaphor you are grasping at.

Like you said I have no knowledge of metaphorical poetry, so to me it's just bunkum. Looks like an attempt to write it in a pretentious manner, but bunkum none the less.

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incorrect, as i said-

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...that most people here would not have extensive knowlege of metaphoric poems.

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As i said earlier, this is not complying to any form, so words used are not only of shakespearean, rather a mix. Part of understanding this is the careful use of the words, it is a mix between old and new, this will help you understand the metaphor in the poem.

So where do "enravelling" and "pretrude" come from and what do they mean.

What does "willowfull" mean.

Maybe if you post their meanings people will be able to understand the metaphor. Indeed it will be impossible for them if they don't know what the words mean.

enravelling: to be active in an unpredictable manner.
pretrude: to extract life.
willowfull: forgiving yet tiring.

enravelling and pretrude are words first used in the Victorian era (1837-1901), first used by Lewis Carroll.

i dont think i need to explain each and every word as this will turn into a lecture which will defeat the purpose of this thread.

There's really not a great deal of point in doing this if you're just going to make things up.

Waste of my time.

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Originally Posted by mr.mystery

enravelling: to be active in an unpredictable manner.
pretrude: to extract life.
willowfull: forgiving yet tiring.

enravelling and pretrude are words first used in the Victorian era (1837-1901), first used by Lewis Carroll.

i dont think i need to explain each and every word as this will turn into a lecture which will defeat the purpose of this thread.

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Then perhaps you should start another thread wherein you could provide all of the responses, hence sidestepping your fear of lecturing us.

Insofar as the Shakespearean style has receded to artifact, you are a minority of one, here, and the serious discussion you purport to desire is nowhere to be found in this forum, I don't think.

I suggest you try www.arcaneobscureandcenturiesoutofdate.com :whistling

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Originally Posted by Chip Monk

There's really not a great deal of point in doing this if you're just going to make things up.

Waste of my time.

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What has been made up? Everything is a waste of time for the unintelligent.

Kev, he's just a troll. Keep your eye on him for early bannage.

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Originally Posted by mr.mystery

enravelling: to be active in an unpredictable manner.
pretrude: to extract life.
willowfull: forgiving yet tiring.

enravelling and pretrude are words first used in the Victorian era (1837-1901), first used by Lewis Carroll.

i dont think i need to explain each and every word as this will turn into a lecture which will defeat the purpose of this thread.

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Then perhaps you should start another thread wherein you could provide all of the responses, hence sidestepping your fear of lecturing us.

Insofar as the Shakespearean style has receded to artifact, you are a minority of one, here, and the serious discussion you purport to desire is nowhere to be found in this forum, I don't think.

I suggest you try www.arcaneobscureandcenturiesoutofdate.com :whistling

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i agree with your second paragrah, i expected different from this forum, not anything negative, just different. As for your disasterous attempt as a joke/insult, very childish and certainly not humorous in any way.

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

Kev, he's just a troll. Keep your eye on him for early bannage.

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"ignored".

You already said you were ignoring him, muppet.

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Originally Posted by Sextent

You already said you were ignoring him, muppet.

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He did so as the number of times i used the word ignore in quotes, i am simply mocking him, thats too much for you to grasp, young one.

you are taking too long, i must go now.

goodbye.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Then perhaps you should start another thread wherein you could provide all of the responses, hence sidestepping your fear of lecturing us.

Insofar as the Shakespearean style has receded to artifact, you are a minority of one, here, and the serious discussion you purport to desire is nowhere to be found in this forum, I don't think.

I suggest you try www.arcaneobscureandcenturiesoutofdate.com :whistling

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i agree with your second paragrah, i expected different from this forum, not anything negative, just different. As for your disasterous attempt as a joke/insult, very childish and certainly not humorous in any way.

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Well, then.

By all means, proceed.





Oooops...almost forgot - for your edification: :whistling

As an entry in the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest it has great merit.

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Originally Posted by clocker

As an entry in the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest it has great merit.

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Do you read this stuff on a winters night, Sir?

Yup.

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As far as the shadows cast, the enravelling producers fast. "Even if thy be yourself--" says I, "I'll still welcome any predatory self" says thy.
When the creatures rest their willowfull wings, their chief calls out and sings, "This willowfull land that follows your wings, seems to be one of many derelict things."
"No!" says I, "Pretrude the mountains and you shall be blessed! As far as you sing, the willowfull will rest."

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I actually really it. I reorganized it just a bit to make more sense. I am pretty sure I got it right. And you really need to translate the words "willowfull", "pretrude", and "enravelling" the way mr.mystery said:

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enravelling: to be active in an unpredictable manner.
pretrude: to extract life.
willowfull: forgiving yet tiring.

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The transition between the 2nd and 3rd sentence is abrupt, but I like it. It's not great, but still enjoyable for its length. I'm allowed to like a "[very very] short story" written by a troll, aren't I?

*edit* and no, i can assure you i am not mr.mystery..

i think mr.mystery made it up as he typed it- literally, also with his other poem. the name "Vergent Tallion" was also typed as he went along. Everything was typed as he went along, the 3 made up words and their translations were done the same.

i assume.

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Originally Posted by Brenya

I actually really it. I reorganized it just a bit to make more sense. I am pretty sure I got it right. And you really need to translate the words "willowfull", "pretrude", and "enravelling" the way mr.mystery said:

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enravelling: to be active in an unpredictable manner.
pretrude: to extract life.
willowfull: forgiving yet tiring.

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The transition between the 2nd and 3rd sentence is abrupt, but I like it. It's not great, but still enjoyable for its length. I'm allowed to like a "[very very] short story" written by a troll, aren't I?

*edit* and no, i can assure you i am not mr.mystery..

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Thanks, your version makes more sense. I don't know what Clocker will think of it though.:ph34r:

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Thanks, your version makes more sense. I don't know what Clocker will think of it though.:ph34r:

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Any bit 'o prose that includes "pretrude" is OK by me.

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Originally Posted by Brenya

I actually really it.

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by bigboab

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Originally Posted by Brenya

I actually really it. I reorganized it just a bit to make more sense. I am pretty sure I got it right. And you really need to translate the words "willowfull", "pretrude", and "enravelling" the way mr.mystery said:
The transition between the 2nd and 3rd sentence is abrupt, but I like it. It's not great, but still enjoyable for its length. I'm allowed to like a "[very very] short story" written by a troll, aren't I?

*edit* and no, i can assure you i am not mr.mystery..

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Thanks, your version makes more sense. I don't know what Clocker will think of it though.:ph34r:

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Agreed...

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Thanks, your version makes more sense. I don't know what Clocker will think of it though.:ph34r:

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Any bit 'o prose that includes "pretrude" is OK by me.

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Agreed...

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

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Originally Posted by Brenya

I actually really it.

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Fair enough.

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...and agreed. :whistling

The word pretrude made me slightly moist :naughty:

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Originally Posted by Biggles

The word pretrude made me slightly moist :naughty:

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:sick:

That wasn't very willowful of you.

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Originally Posted by Biggles

The word pretrude made me slightly moist :naughty:

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Does you moistness pretrude a strange ode*r?

Staying on thread.:)

We will find a use for this word yet.:lol: