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hi
I need to buy a new PC
it's for extreme use ( games and movies , might for design )
I will use windows OS
I need advises for main part like :
Mainboard
Ram ( hope ddr3 is available with reasonable price )
Graphic card ( aim to get Radeon HD 4870 or nVedia GTX 280 )
Processor ( do i need Intel extreme CPU for my extreme games )
my budget is about 600 euro .
thanks for any opinions :)
well for a start fella, getting hold of some DDR3 ram for a 'reasonable' price is going to be hard. It's still relatively new and there for sadly still expensive. Plus using DDR2 ram will also give you much more room with your budget:)
For you mobo, do you know what type of CPU you wanna go with? You dont need an intel extreme to run games lol, i think alot of people would be out of money if that was the case.
For design wise again you don't need to go as high as a 4850 or GTX 280, well according to my knowledge you dont.
What i think would be best fella is to creat a list from an online shop and show us what you think would best and we can give you opinion. That way you can price up from the online shops in your area:)
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Originally Posted by Acid_death69
thanks for ur quick reply
first i didn't mention that my brother will buy the pc for me from France , that's why i came here to ask for help .
ok then , is Quad CPU is necessary for games ( Hardcore player :) ) .
and it's ok with ddr2 .
i need some offers for a whole PC to be computable together , cause i don't have a wide knowledge about PC world .
so u can give an offer for a whole PC and other can discuss ur offer to get the best one for the best price .
the main thing is i need the new PC to serve for a long time , so i can increase the price if it's necessary .
ok then, what are you specs of your current pc.
For example say you have a dual core 2.6 and you went and bought a quad core 1.8. The dual core is going to be better cos the graphics card will use the speed over the number of cores.
DDR2 is perfectly fine:)
You could always check this thread, seems thats what you're looking for man ;)
I was gonna say use DDR2 as DDR3 isnt really need as of yet espically at a budget
Have a look at nVidia 8800 cards i use a GTX OC2 and dan i think ur happy with ur GT aint ya?
CPU hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm Q6660 (Quad Core) or maybe a E6750 (Dual Core) depending on budget as not much price differences
Not sure about a mobo not up to stratch
yerr im perfectly happy with 8800GT, does everything i want it to, i use it for games like UT3 and Crysis also use it for analysing wave signals for music.
or S.E.T.I :bye:
lol if only:p
The brand new Nvidia and ATI cards are INSANELY Expensive right now. you might want to take a look at the 9000 series instead. The 9800s are down to around 100 euros if you find them in the right place. You're going to want at least 2gb, perferably 4gb of ddr2 memory, which has become pretty cheap lately. Kingston, patriot, and corsair all make good memory. The best hard drives imo are western digital and Seagate, both are long time makers and have their stuff down.
You only need a dual core for gaming, even intense stuff like 3d modeling, movie editing and the like you dont need a quad core for. You certainly do not need an extreme edition, they are still very expensive and overpriced. I have a quad core, and it's amazing, however it's really only useful for things like compiling code, running large database commands, and encoding video. Most stuff doesn't really support quad cores yet, very very few games are designed for quad core and only a handful for multicore at all.
As far as a motherboard goes, XFX and EVGA rule. Foxconn and asus are also pretty good. If you're really into gaming i would definetely suggest an XFX or EVGA board though. Remember if you're gonna be doing intensive stuff to get good cooling, that includes THE CASE, as well as looking at better heatsinks than stock. Make sure that case has alot of fans on it. The worst thing you can do is fry parts a few days after you buy them cause something overheated.
8 series much better than the 9 series dont be fooled by the numbers i would much prefer the 8800 GTX OC2 i have over a 9 series
I know i dont know much about mobo's but my Abit IP35 Pro seems to be handling my overclocking and heat i.e Silent Running and temps below 40'C in all area's
You dont wants loads and loads of fans it gets noisy and stupid you want a good ventilated case
Agreed 100% 8800 FTW
what is his price now ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
I used google b4 i asked this question for this Card Geforce 8800 Ultra
and found some prices , and i hope i'm not right cause if that price was right he should FTW .
and can u pls choose a good card at least for gaming and have a price in range of 180 - 240 $ .
and advice me for a good main board too with similar price .
Your budget and your expectations do not correspond.Quote:
Originally Posted by #Palestinian#
I just specced a mid-grade PC for a friend that went low end on the vid card and processor (e8400) and it came to 600 euro...no way you're getting an "extreme" edition chip, decent vid card and DDR3 memory for that price.
Either adjust your budget upward or you desires down.
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Originally Posted by clockerYour budget and your expectations do not correspond.Quote:
Originally Posted by #Palestinian#
I just specced a mid-grade PC for a friend that went low end on the vid card and processor (e8400) and it came to 600 euro...no way you're getting an "extreme" edition chip, decent vid card and DDR3 memory for that price.
Either adjust your budget upward or you desires down.
for only 3 speces ??? waw
what is the budget u expect to buy a real good PC ? just wondering ....
Here is the Newegg quote on the PC I referred to.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
You can ignore the cables as they are for a separate project.
Note that the vid card is very low end...the customer requires only basic video capability as this is not a gaming/entertainment machine.
I think the CPU/motherboard/RAM selections would be fine for you and you could add any video card the budget would allow.
Naturally, being in Palestine you cannot order from this site.
I have no idea where you get stuff from and therefore have no clue what your prices might be.
$119.99( for motherboard ) + $164.99 ( for CPU ) = almost 280 $
I think 320$ for VGA card is more than needed ? don't u think ?
I only need 3 drivers and i can handle the rest from my country ( Palestine ) , so don't u have other offers ? ( i'm not saying this offer is not good , but u seem u have big problem with this budget , so if u have better speces that would be great , if not then i will consider buying this Speces u have provided
OK, now I'm confused.
What does this 600 euro budget have to cover?
The whole machine or just the CPU/board and vid card?
oh , i'm sorry if i didn't clear that b4:unsure: .Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
but when i asked for the 4 main parts that i was looking for , i added the budget for only the 4 parts , and why should i put the budget for other things which i don't need to discuss here .
and i excluded RAM , so it's only 3 parts now , so can u get me other good offers now ?? :D
Oh, OK.
Well, I still think the CPU offers the best bang for the buck and would work well for you.
I love Gigabyte motherboards and this one offers everything but dual vid card capability- which I think is overrated anyway.
I don't follow the latest trends in video cards...maybe someone more clued in than I will chime in.
about CPU I donno , but i like to get core 2 Quad cause in my current PC i suffer from its low speed ( don't ask about the CPU please ) .Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
and i don't care about dual vid card in my motherboard .
so thanks alot for ur advices and i will wait for someone else to complete the rest or add other opinions :happy:
Speed will not be an issue with the Wolfie but if it's a quad you want, then go for it.
As of today the exchange rate is 1 Euro = 1.2784 U.S. dollars
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EVGA GeForce GTX 260 896-P3-1260-AR Video Card
Item #:N82E16814130370
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$284.99
$274.991
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ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA ATX Intel Motherboard
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$288.991
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Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
Item #: N82E16819115131
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
$319.98
$269.99
Grand Total:$833.97US or 655 euro
Slightly over budget but wort it IMO :) Good luck
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Originally Posted by Detale
well, it looks wonderful , mainboard and cpu are amazing , and VGA card looks great , but do u think they are better than the following ( cause i can handle a little more bucks over my budget if it really worth it ) :
Radeon HD 4870
Radeon HD 4850
GeForce 8800 GTX ( or Ultra if it's existed )
and thanks a lot man for this reply .
If you're going quad, I'd get the Q9550.
For an extra $50 you double the L2 cache and get a little extra speed.
I like spending your money.
well , ok then i can handle it i guess :happy:.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
Agreed on the CPU, Thanks Clock ;)
As far as the video card. Alot of it is preference some people prefer Nvidia and some like ATI. Me I'm a Nvidia man so I'm going to say my pick:
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 896-P3-1260-AR Video Card
is still the one to beat. Also Evga has a lifetime warranty so if something goes wrong with your card(within reason) they will replace it for you :)
i believe this would be what you wanted but it goes way out of your budget:
Quad Core Extreme
FSB 1333MHz
64 bit Support
as for video card:
if i had the money that would be within my choice.thing's huge btw :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Uhhh dude thats $1000 for the CPU alone $700 more than the Q9550 an not worth it at all. The 9550 is also 1333 FSB
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Originally Posted by Detale
ok then what about this one ?
i7 Processor 920
http://www.microcenter.com/image.pht...438&sku=875617
$299.99
??
Thats the new i7 platform, you need a new Mobo and DDR3 ram for it. the cheapest setup fot this CPU I could find is around $900 us. but it isn't worth it yet really.
Check this thread
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-har...e-now-321358/?
don't go i7 yet, and about the CPU it was just to compare since he wanted an extreme chip, i guessed i would show him the possibilities :).
ps: IMO i7 was mainly meant for advanced servers, not for common users. the pros are that it can hyper thread though, but still not worth it.
yerr, ya don't want that one lol. Well not yet anyways. like detale said it requires a new type of mobo and ram which both are still rather expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by #Palestinian#Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
ok then what about this one ?
i7 Processor 920
http://www.microcenter.com/image.pht...438&sku=875617
$299.99
??
And at this point unproven
i don't know , after all i think there must be better species i can get , i think the money was the problem , so here is my whole budget for the following parts , it's 1350 euro :
CPU , HDD , ddram , mother board , and vga card .
i'm satisfied with cpu and mother board , but i think i can get a better VGA card , so pls get me the last parts ( ddram, vga card and hdd 1 TB ) with my budget , this is the source i buy my pc from here .
these are good for me :
Intel Processeur core 2 quad Q9550
Asus Rampage Formula
but there is no 260 gtx vga card in that site , so i will jumb for another one and i hope i can get a better one with this new budget .
i have only a week to make my last choice , and it must be good cause i'm not thinking about buying another in the near future . :(
i hope one of these card will be good and fit my budget :
1 , 2 , 3
I know my opinion on here don't count worth swat but I have a site that I use as a rule for helping people buy or build systems .
Is it a gamer or just a all around system for e-mail , browsing and schoul projets etc. ?
A link is here for an idea of a config that may work . The p4 or Amd Power system gives you a goal for say under $ 600 cdn .
http://www.alinx.ca/flyer.asp
Sorry I got confused it was a higher spec you wanted but still suggest their config's .
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