On 56k 1kb Upload Is Not Leeching

I dont see why people see this is leeching on 56k, most p2p clients including kl seem to require 56k to donate half there bandwidth being 3KB to uploads but this makes downloading files useless especialy on clients like emule, now if you were doing it on broadband then yes it would be leeching but on 56k no.

The 3kb setting forces me to use a program llike netlimiter to limit my uploads on p2p programs to 1kB so i can at least download movies and similar sized files

People on broadband arnt forced to use half there bandwith for uploading(techinaly they cant) so why should 56k's be forced to use half of our mesley bandwidth. :D

kazaa's lowest setting is 24Kbs and with one open slot it doesn't slow my downloads, as far as emule goes, since it has a 3-1 ratio, setting your uploads to 1KBs will slow your downloads to 3KBs (i limit mine to 2KBs on emule and can download fine)

But i dont set my uploads low i use netlimiter instead.

I agree 3k/b is asking to much..u very rarely get the full 7k/b to start with,more like 4.7-5k/b.I used to set mine to 2 k/b for kazaa..just run regedit

HKEY_CURRENT_USER...software>kazaa>transfer

Then right click uploadbandwith and change the data value..1k/b = 8,so change it to 16 for 2k/b

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Originally posted by CosmoK@11 September 2003 - 09:15
I agree 3k/b is asking to much..u very rarely get the full 7k/b to start with,more like 4.7-5k/b.I used to set mine to 2 k/b for kazaa..just run regedit

HKEY_CURRENT_USER...software>kazaa>transfer

Then right click uploadbandwith and change the data value..1k/b = 8,so change it to 16 for 2k/b

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Hey, thats what I was just thinking. I remember Swietek mentioned this awhile back to allow bb users to find setting inbetween the standard ones.

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Originally posted by REALITY+11 September 2003 - 08:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 11 September 2003 - 08:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CosmoK@11 September 2003 - 09:15
I agree 3k/b is asking to much..u very rarely get the full 7k/b to start with,more like 4.7-5k/b.I used to set mine to 2 k/b for kazaa..just run regedit

HKEY_CURRENT_USER...software>kazaa>transfer

Then right click uploadbandwith and change the data value..1k/b = 8,so change it to 16 for 2k/b

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Hey, thats what I was just thinking. I remember Swietek mentioned this awhile back to allow bb users to find setting inbetween the standard ones. [/b][/quote]
Just use netlimiter from here allows you set how much bandwidth to give each program upload and download seperatly.

So just set the controls in your p2p to unlimited, then set what ever speed you want in Netlimiter.

I use a 64k broadband and I limit uploads bandwrith to the minimun, but to compenstate I check Extra bandwrith when computer is idle

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Originally posted by CoolMac@10 October 2003 - 20:17
I use a 64k broadband and I limit uploads bandwrith to the minimun, but to compenstate I check Extra bandwrith when computer is idle

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That&#39;s a horrible feature -- it&#39;ll mean you can get 20+ uploads at once at <0.1 KB/sec each and wreck your download speeds while doing it.
Doubt that makes anyone very happy, especially you. :P

You could set uploads to only 1 or 2 and upload bandwidth max to 32 kilobits/sec (4 KB/sec) and then still have PLENTY bandwidth to download very near your max download speed.

Upload bandwidth is NOT neccessarily shared with download bandwidth.
HOWEVER if upload is overloaded, downloads suffer immensely. There has to be SOME upload bandwidth left over for your connection to keep sending "SEND MORE" for downloads.

A 56k (v.90) modem has a hardware max speed of 53 kilobits/sec download and 33.6 kilobits/sec upload. HOWEVER, poor line conditions may mean you only connect at 40 kilobits/sec DOWN, which leaves perhaps only 20-25 kilobits/sec UP. That&#39;s why for some, setting the minimum upload bandwidth limit in KL++ to 24 kilobits/sec WORKS because they are connecting near max 56k speeds with probably 30+ kilobits/sec upload available, but for others it&#39;s just too much.

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Originally posted by junkyardking@11 September 2003 - 07:56
I dont see why people see this is leeching on 56k, most p2p clients including kl seem to require 56k to donate half there bandwidth being 3KB to uploads but this makes downloading files useless especialy on clients like emule, now if you were doing it on broadband then yes it would be leeching but on 56k no.

The 3kb setting forces me to use a program llike netlimiter to limit my uploads on p2p programs to 1kB so i can at least download movies and similar sized files

People on broadband arnt forced to use half there bandwith for uploading(techinaly they cant) so why should 56k&#39;s be forced to use half of our mesley bandwidth. :D

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thats not yr ip is it?

It displays your ip to yourself.

Leeching implies the unfair stealing of resources, 1kb does not imply resources.

In the above situation you have forogtten the critical thing. There is a limit to the number of people who can download off you at any one time in most P2P programs. I&#39;ve never used emule but odds are there&#39;s one there too, use it. I&#39;ve never really worried about this since Shareza comes preset with decent limits (7/3).

I was using limitation but not very much because I experienced "Remotely Qued"

And some people have high bandwrith so.......

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Originally posted by CoolMac@11 October 2003 - 05:36
I was using limitation but not very much because I experienced "Remotely Qued"

And some people have high bandwrith so.......

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Almost everyone with high bandwidth only have high DOWNLOAD bandwidth.

EXTREMELY few are those who can upload at a sustained speed of 30 KB/sec in TOTAL.

Let&#39;s see... AOL 56K (advertised, really, they&#39;re still only offering 28.8 I hear) = &#036;23.95 / month.

SBC Yahoo DSL = &#036;29.95 a month.

What&#39;s the problem?

Get DSL, get your calls, get your downloads and get your uploads.

Sure, SBC kinda sucks, but it&#39;s what I got, it&#39;s pretty cheap, and hey, it works alright.