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No proof or even really a suspicion but just so you all know, p/pnut/hyp from digitalrebels.org is behind it, and he was fairly deeply involved with the seednation.net scam. Now, we don't think p is bad, a little stupid perhaps, but just to put this here for those to be wary and not going giving this guy a lot of money.
Take this as a public service announcement of sorts :)
Here comes the next scam.
wtf, second scam??
With the new site that has come up there are rumors of my involvement in that as well. I did not endorse that message or give permission for my name to be used in that message. I want you to know that I am not affiliated or involved in that new site/company that is taking the place of seednation.
So, the guys that were apart of seednation are now scamming but under a different alias?
Well yes and no. I'm not sure why p/pnut/hyp is doing this, perhaps he's seen he can make a quick buck. Or maybe he's getting help from Dhruv, no idea.
But originally seednation only had one scammer, Dhruv.
http://seedmaster.org/index.php?suba...=&start_from=&
ok, who here thinks you can even GET a Gbit for for $40 per month ($10 per month x 4 users)?Quote:
<%russ0r> how many people we going to stuff on a gbit box tho?
<%russ0r> :D
<@p> 4*
<@p> per box
Can you even GET 10GB on an i7? What would that be, 2x8GB and 2x1GB? Well, that makes almost no sense, it would be cheaper to get 4x4GB... Does a 3TB drive exist too? (well maybe 2x1.5TB). And a 10Gbps connection. Well, the only people who sell 10Gbps are OVH, and certainly if these server are really hosted @ HE, a 10Gbps link with even 1TB traffic would cost hundreds, LOL.Quote:
<@p> Intel i7 Quad Core 860 (8X2.80GHz)
<@p> 10GB DDR3 Ram
<@p> 3TB SATA2 Hard Drive
<@p> 10Gbps Connection
What is this cache he speaks of? Since when did rm -rf move files to some mystery cache? lol....Quote:
<%rXXXXX> at the risk of getting banned, there are 5 rtorrents running, and thats with mine closed, add me and that is 6, there are 7 users created on the box
<%rXXXXX> and it's only got a 5gb for those people, not 2TB
<%rXXXXX> so i'm wondering why you told me and everyone else different
<%rXXXXX> that's all
<%rXXXXX> (each rtorrent is running from a different user)
%rXXXXX waits for gline
<%rXXXXX> i mean you add that with all the other inconsistancies and whatever is going on doesnt look good - and it should be spotless after dhruv
<+saby> ^^
<+AXXXXX> I'm with rXXXXX on this one
<@p> umm
<@p> rXXXXX
<@p> im on the box right now
<@p> theres 4 ppl
<@p> from this channel
<@p> that are on that box
<@p> the other are test accounts
<@p> and monitoring accts
<@p> and there isnt 5gb hdd
<@p> its a 2tb
<@p> but we have it setup
<@p> for each user to have 5gb
<@p> and thats all u can see
<@p> cus its a dedicated space partition
<@p> numb nuts
<@p> if u dont like it
<@p> open a ticket
<@p> ill delete ur account
<@p> and
<@p> refund ur money
<@p> i dont care it dont effect me
<@p> the new box is online.
<%rXXXXX> well i wiped my data and there is still 1 some GB in use
<%rXXXXX> so thats not true
<@p> yeah it is
<@p> cus u still have stuff on rus
<@p> im looking at urs now
<@p> in ur cache
<%rXXXXX> theres nothing there, dude
<@p> here. I'll remove you
<@p> whats your username
<@p> ill refund ur money
<@p> someone else want his slot?
<%rXXXXX> rt0rrent4@server:~/.cache$ ls -la ~
<%rXXXXX> total 28
<%rXXXXX> drwx------ 3 rt0rrent4 rt0rrent4 4096 Oct 27 16:08 .
<%rXXXXX> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Oct 26 19:59 ..
<%rXXXXX> -rwx------ 1 rt0rrent4 rt0rrent4 1015 Oct 27 09:18 .bash_history
<%rXXXXX> -rwx------ 1 rt0rrent4 rt0rrent4 220 Oct 26 16:10 .bash_logout
<%rXXXXX> -rwx------ 1 rt0rrent4 rt0rrent4 3180 Oct 26 16:10 .bashrc
<%rXXXXX> drwx------ 2 rt0rrent4 rt0rrent4 4096 Oct 26 16:11 .cache
<%rXXXXX> -rwx------ 1 rt0rrent4 rt0rrent4 675 Oct 26 16:10 .profile
<%rXXXXX> rt0rrent4@server:~/.cache$ df -h
<%rXXXXX> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
<%rXXXXX> /dev/vzfs 477G 126G 352G 27% /
<%rXXXXX> rt0rrent4@server:~/.cache$
<@p> u cant view the cache
<@p> its auto deletes
<@p> after 3 days
<@p> like the old SN boxs
<@p> its rtorrent
<@p> not rutorrent
<@p> it saves ur files
<@p> in another directory
<@p> for leech protection
<@p> and other users logging into urs
<@p> if u dont beleive me buddy
<@p> ill remove
<@p> so please supply ur answer
<@p> i dont have to do this
<%rXXXXX> nope
<%rXXXXX> you dont have to lie either
<%rXXXXX> but you are
<@p> I am lying?
<@p> hrm.
<@p> ill fix you then.
<@p> ryannerocha is using the same box
<@p> auebix is using the box
<@p> and Phersick is
<%rXXXXX> fix me then
<@p> specto is using the new box
<%rXXXXX> i knew you would
<%rXXXXX> when i brought this up
<@p> THERES NOTHING WRONG
<@p> U HVE SPACE
<@p> U CAN SEED
<@p> UR PAYING 6.50$
<@p> im not giving u a sb on the new box
<%specto> /dev/vzfs 477G 126G 351G 27% /
<%rXXXXX> there isnt much wrong the problem is that your lying and that doesnt look good thats all
<%rXXXXX> you werent going to anyways
<%rXXXXX> you can remove me
<%rXXXXX> ban me
<%rXXXXX> whatever
<@p> going to what?
<%rXXXXX> put me on a new box
<%rXXXXX> you said this was a new box
<%rXXXXX> and it wasnt
<%rXXXXX> it was setup with seenation 8 days ago
<@p> the box ur on
<@p> IS A NEW BOX
<@p> NO ONE FROM SEEDNATION
<@p> WAS ON THAT BOX
<@p> BESIDES MY PERSOANL ACCOUNT
<@p> AND D4RK
<@p> it says
<@d4rK> hmmm
<@p> then we REIMGD IT
<@d4rK> whats the issue here?
<@p> d4rK nothing
<@p> dont worry bout it
<@p> im deleting his account
<@p> he dont wan tit
<@p> and ill refund the money
<%rXXXXX> the truth is the issue
<@d4rK> kk
<@d4rK> rXXXXX
%rXXXXX ([email protected]) Quit (G-Lined: Laters)
Seriously, how stupid are some people...
Hey all, please don't take the warnings lightly. Regardless if he can deliver the goods or not, getting involved with him or whatever he's doing will just cause you more drama and stress than it is worth.
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[18:49:06] <Aebiux> GL in all your endeavors guys. I enjoyed meeting a lot of cool people here, but I won't be back. Don't let anyone tell you I was ever in support of seedmasters. I hope P can fulfil his promisses to offer 10gbit dedicated boxes to the first 10 ppl that donate him $300 up front for VIP (yes he said this). I hope his new 1gbit seedboxes come through like he promised, and I hope he takes care of you. Even if P can provide the goods, I don't want to be part of this shady operation. I asked for a refund, created my ticket, did everything that he asked. The ticket asked me for more information to process the refund, and when I went to reply to the ticket, it wouldn't accept it because he deleted my account. Anyways, so far he hasn't given any of the old VIP's refunds that have asked for it, and P even lied earlier and said he did, to which was given proof of the contrary. He's lied about a lot of things, which is one of the reasnos why I leaving.
Session Close: Wed Oct 27 18:49:11 2010
rXXXX is me. i could'nt sit by anymore and not call it out, of course he lied about the lies and then lied some more, here's a little extra proof
#vip lies: http://pastebin.com/LPGctvRZ
refund lies: http://i52.tinypic.com/eqv5ut.jpg
more lies proof: http://pastebin.com/s3AGMq6q
HE.net isn't one of the best DC for seedbox, in fact they are one of the worst and will kill your server at first sign of copyright infringement.Quote:
<@p> its being provided by host-planet.info which is a branch off SolidSolutions Dedicated Server provider that I own.
00:48 <@p> the servers are hosted in HurricaneElectric(He.Net) one of the best datacenters in the world
00:48 <@p> for seedbox nodes are.
00:48 < DarkStar> Sounds pretty good, Dhruv used to use 100tb I think, they had really good connections. :P
00:49 < DarkStar> Pretty good deals on Shells you have going there.
00:50 <@p> 100tb isnt created yet
00:50 <@p> loooooool.
00:50 <@p> our nodes are
00:50 <@p> 16 cores
00:50 <@p> 18gb ram
00:50 <@p> 2x1tb hdd's
00:50 <@p> 1gbit connection
00:50 <@p> thats for vips
00:50 <@p> lifetime vips will have an option for the first 5 ppl
00:50 <@p> to get on 10gbit box
00:50 <@p> the first free users
00:50 <@p> will be on a 100mbit box
Either way, even a 100mbit in that DC costs minimum $100 a month, for a single RU let alone Gbit.... Anyone can verify this, just put it into http://he.net/cgi-bin/colo_quote and you'll see.
As for 10Gbit, you can ask them for that price as well. Just ask em for 100mbit, Gbit, and 10Gbit... You'll be blown away how much it costs :D
Wow, unbelievable how thick people are:
I can't even put into words how exasperated I am... It's like, they ignore what is plainly said right in front of them, and throw it on me and others like we created some sort of conspiracy... And apparently they even have moral high-grounds to retreat to (saying the scene is all good, lol..) Anyway, if the mods want me to stop posting 'updates' on what is going on, I'll setup a blog and do it there, but figure people should have all the information on what is really going on.Quote:
<saby> and those thelen and others posted this sentence framing it along with the scam posts
<coolio> and normally it follows with that what she said
<saby> they picked up random sentences and framed the whole thing
<coolio> ah saby there is always elements of truth behind any speculation bud...thats why i alays tend to be cautios...just like taking a dump in a public bathroom
*****
<saby> they just frame the sentences in such a way that it sounds legit
<+unxor> reffering to everythign tho, not just this channel
<+unxor> yea
<+unxor> well heres one for you
<+unxor> i do a lot of trading etc-
<+unxor> stocks/forex
<+unxor> every broker i use has like
<+unxor> 500 bad reviews
<+unxor> etc-
<+unxor> ive NEVER had any problems
<+unxor> infact i make good cash from them
<+unxor> people just do stupid shit and lose cash or hear something that isnt accurate
<+unxor> and start jumping to conclusions
<saby> ya
<+unxor> this happens for everythign.. real life or not
<+unxor> heh
<coolio> even porn films
<saby> its simple business tactics
<+unxor> yea
<saby> frame the other to gain
<coolio> you think its real
<+unxor> saby, exactly
<coolio> but its fake :)
*****
<@d4rK> well in all honesty
<saby> yay d4rK \o/
<@d4rK> there profit from seedboxes are lame
<@d4rK> i run autoupload bots for various sites
<@d4rK> thats real money
<@d4rK> fuck torrents
<saby> nice d4rK
<@d4rK> they make money off scene
<@d4rK> people who do it for kicks to trade with other friends and affiliates
Insofar as p/pnut/hyp being innocent, he definitely has banned people from the IRC after saying he has refunded them, but not.
See http://dataleech.com/p_is_a_cheat.html (taken from http://pastebin.com/fYjLn6TH )
Just to show you that i am more intrested in the truth, within the last hour i received a refund from one of the paypal accounts after filing a dispute with paypal, here's the proof:
http://i56.tinypic.com/20606yb.jpg
If interested, I can provide relatively lengthy full IRC discussion logs for both the #vip and #seedmasters channels.
Name obscured to prevent detection (and thus GLine).
I would be interested in the #VIP log from the last day - since my own banning, i am sure there is even more bs to go around...Quote:
Originally Posted by StSapphire
Wow they really are getting desperate now. Claiming I'm paying someone to spam the channel and contrive all these lies, when it is all coming from members LOL.
FYI, pnut is trying to setup a vps site, solidvps.org not that it relates, but avoid ...
100% of the information given is from people that have purchased his "VIP" service.
Wow, people are really stupid:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...07#post7090307
If you want lulz, go to seedmaster.org, and post a comment using Thelen and say some stuff like in this thread. Watch as it is deleted :D
You can get servers with 10gigE but your going to pay in the thousands of dollars per month. Just access to a 10gigE port is expensive by itself-the 10gigE switching hardware is not cheap.
I disagree about HE being anti-bittorrent, they are upstream providers to several bulletproof hosts.
Yea I know you can get servers, but HE only supply BW, and at $2 (or $1) per Mbit, that is $10-20k a month lol... NOWHERE near the $150 he is claiming >_>
What upstream bulletproof hosts? I don't mean their network, I mean their colocation and such. HE as a transit/peering provider are fine, yes, agreed. But, as a colo/BW provider... not so much.
did pnut/p used to be involved in ByteSized-Hosting? I used to rent a slot from then and I am sure that P rings a bell.
also http://www.seedmaster.org/ seems to be down, do you think he took the message.
No, definitely not, but when you said that it did kindof ring a bell LOL, like deja vu or something :S But, I know he is/wasn't/never will be, Animazing and BlueCrystal are top notch guys, they'd never have anything to do with a scam.
www.seedmaster.org is probably down because of what I did with solidvps (exposed that he was a liar), probably they are moving to different servers or something.
To clarify the above, I haven't DDoS'd them, what I mean to say is, p/coolty decided to move hosting or something, based on the comments in IRC.
Please don't make accusations like these; ByteSized has never been and never will be associated with the likes like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by executioner
Sorry, no offence was intended by that, was just that have seen that name p or pnut before on an IRC channel and for some reason thought it was yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnimazingPlease don't make accusations like these; ByteSized has never been and never will be associated with the likes like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by executioner
Enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by russ0rI would be interested in the #VIP log from the last day - since my own banning, i am sure there is even more bs to go around...Quote:
Originally Posted by StSapphire
http://pastie.org/1257876
Can somebody give me a tl;drQuote:
interesting highlights... coolty/solidvps sure dont have anything to do with seednation/seedmaster's alright. LOL.
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19:02 <+Wowzamo> hm
19:02 <@stitchup> I'm not upset. I'm explaining buddy.
19:02 <+Wowzamo> so p = pnut
19:02 <@stitchup> I know for a fact money didnt go to pnut, lawl.
19:02 <+Wowzamo> got ya, thanks
19:02 <@stitchup> Money was sent to coolty, which is pnut's partner.
19:03 <@stitchup> They used his paypal just for the VIPs due to its not host-planets bussiness account..
19:03 <+Wowzamo> who's hyp? just wondering
19:03 <+Wowzamo> thought he was p all along
19:03 <@stitchup> Hes the one going to managing SolidVPS
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17:47 < stitchup> hello everyone. ;)
17:47 < stitchup> www.seedmaster.org
17:47 < stitchup> please read that last post ;)
17:48 <%specto> so confusing
17:48 <%specto> :P
17:49 <%specto> hey stitchup will the vps be openvz or xen for solidvps?
17:49 < stitchup> Please wait til they open, www.solidvps.org subscribe :)
17:49 <%specto> fine... :P
17:49 < stitchup> I will have it online within tonight.
17:49 <%specto> I'm attempting to replace my current one
17:49 <%specto> 2host...
17:52 < stitchup> We will have 5 different plans for you guy's too choose from once we have the site finnished.
17:52 < stitchup> We're working on tons of things for seedmaster, along with solidvps.
17:52 < stitchup> Host-Planet will just be offering Webhosting & Unix shell solutions.
17:52 < stitchup> SeedMaster techs are working on setting up VIP area on the website and transfering your guys accounts
Indeed.
It is funny what a black name I have, when it obviously is more than one person. lol... I don't know whether these guys are just extremely stupid, or they expect to get away with their lies :S
No, I'm not lying about the refund.Quote:
03:43 < saby> morning all :)
04:09 < saby> d4rK, man thats this :S
04:09 < saby> http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...er.org-warning
04:10 <%Coolty> saby
04:10 <%Coolty> the first line in that says
04:10 < saby> :-S
04:10 <%Coolty> No proof or even really a suspicion
04:10 < saby> ya Coolty
04:10 < saby> na i was talking about russors posts
04:10 <%Coolty> AKA he has no real evidence and is just making shit up
04:10 < saby> and Aebiux
04:10 < saby> 's
04:10 <%Coolty> Those guys are full of shit
04:10 < saby> saying they din't received the refunds
04:10 <%Coolty> Look
04:10 <%Coolty> They did
04:11 <%Coolty> Well believe what you want
04:11 <%Coolty> nobody is making you stay on IRC
Quote:
01:10 <@hyp> thelen
01:10 <@hyp> made up
01:10 <@hyp> 5
01:10 <@hyp> images
01:10 <@hyp> from
01:10 <@hyp> Wowzamo
01:11 <@hyp> Russ0r
01:11 <@hyp> him
01:11 <@hyp> and saying
01:11 <@hyp> he wasnt refunded
01:11 <@hyp> on his donation
01:11 <@hyp> i have 24hour
01:11 <@hyp> to prove it
01:11 <@hyp> which i already sent the imgs
01:11 <@hyp> in
01:11 <@hyp> that all have been refunded
01:11 <@hyp> so
01:11 <@hyp> waiting for it to come back online now
01:11 <@hyp> stitchup is at the dc now
01:11 <@hyp> so
01:11 <@hyp> im waiting
01:11 <@hyp> well
01:11 <@hyp> not the websrv one
01:11 <+Wowzamo> how'd he get something from me?
01:11 <@hyp> idk?
01:11 <@hyp> its all fake
01:11 <@hyp> like i said
01:11 <@hyp> lo
01:11 <@hyp> l
01:11 <@hyp> ask coolty
01:11 <@hyp> lol
Wading through all the lines of chat, anyone would have difficulty discerning when they are actually telling the truth among all the deceit.Quote:
01:13 <@Coolty> if you want six fucking dollars back
01:13 <@Coolty> sure
01:13 <@Coolty> i will send it to you
01:13 <+Wowzamo> i wasnt asking that
01:13 <@Coolty> Then drop it
01:13 <+Wowzamo> ...
01:13 <@Coolty> Because seriously
01:13 <@Coolty> it's lame
01:14 <+Wowzamo> wtf? hyp told me to ask you what Thelen was on about
01:14 <+Wowzamo> shit
01:14 <@Coolty> TheLen is a troll basically
Wednesday evening, I submitted the ticket requesting my refund through their my.host-planet website, as requested. I notified them in the chat that I had done so, and they told me I'd get my refund, immediatly banning me from the chat and deleting my host-planet account. I complied with all their requests for getting the refund even though I did not expect them to keep their word, but this way they would have no excuse.
I opened the dispute with PayPal Thursday morning. I'll keep working the dispute with PayPal, regardless of how likely I am to get the refund.
Here are my PayPal screenshots:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3636/ppmain.th.jpg http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7530/ppsub.th.jpg http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2...etails1.th.jpg http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1280/ppdispute.th.jpg
Coolty's so damn defensive.
Here's some more. :)
http://pastie.org/1262415
You guys can bicker through email or PM. This really isn't the proper place for this discussion.
Closed.