Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
This section has been dead for a while. Time to ruffle some feathers.
While I believe we should be protected from free speech abuse, censorship abuse, net neutrality etc I don't believe what some of the actions Anonymous does is entirely appropriate. Leaking confidential databases, email addresses/passwords, logins, ddosing sites that society are dependent on is just pointless. A video depicting their intentions and some motivational music isn't going to change anything.
Now, unless they go into the white house and start shooting a few rounds at some important people, we're going nowhere. Hell, even terrorists get their point across.
Re: Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
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iLOVENZB
Hell, even terrorists get their point across.
As good as anyone ever could :O
Anonymous, I think they are doing what they are doing, this what they wanted in the first place, popularity. They are playing on their concrete ground, It would be quite hard to gun down important people in comparison to sit in a dark room behind a monitor.
Re: Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
They could create Y2K 2011/2012 if they really wanted to and REALLY fuck up Wall Street but NOO they want to do a peaceful protest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-eFxCDx7Yw
ie. A bunch of kiddies standing around with masks on.
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Activism is activism, laws aside. They're activists with their own methods, why can't we just call them activists and leave an in depth analysis of such a fluid group aside? I don't think they'll instigate any real change, they'll probably end up as tools that work against what they're to accomplish.
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Originally Posted by
mjmacky
Activism is activism, laws aside. They're activists with their own methods, why can't we just call them activists and leave an in depth analysis of such a fluid group aside? I don't think they'll instigate any real change, they'll probably end up as tools that work against what they're to accomplish.
And that's the point, even if it does work against what they stand for at least there standing. It's revolutionary warfare.
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You've all missed the point of Anonymous... and tbh I can't quite see how... if you look at what happens in their hacktivism... at how they operate the point is obvious. You recruit kids with computers to cover your tracks. You feed them lots of crap about how they're participating in protecting free speech, standing up for oppressed people, making a stand against 'the man'. You feed them the tools (LOIC) to create a massive diversion, and then you hide behind them. Whilst they flood sites with meaningless packets you scan the sites to identify weaknesses, you run real exploits against the weaknesses you find. You try to obtain access behind into the server...
You don't really think the target selection isn't being driven by someone do you?
There's no grand committee selecting targets which fit an agenda... Mastercard never presented any threat to freedom of speech, and damned sure as hell have nothing to do with oppressing people. Paypal again never presented any threat to the freedom of speech, or provided any succor to those who oppress people...
"We're attacking Paypal because they aren't supporting Wikileaks"... hang the fuck on... Wikileaks is already in place. They don't need Paypal to provide them a funding stream... the logic is crap... it doesn't work... it's a good excuse through for flooding a company who are shit hot on online security with so much traffic that picking out the real threats is nigh on impossible...
Anonymous is a group of hardcore blackhats who have realised that in the days when every rebellious teenager has a computer and fast internet access, mass social engineering is possible and that it can be used to cover their tracks.
Re: Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
Anonymous=irrelevant.
Dig all the dirt you want, expose corruption and backdoor dealings all day long...it makes no difference.
We know the who/what/why of the latest financial crisis for instance, and yet not a single player has been indicted or arraigned.
In fact, the major players behind the Wall Street crisis are making more money than before and using taxpayer money to lobby/defend themselves.
We KNOW who's guilty and should be held accountable, don't need Anon or Wikileaks to expose them.
Doesn't matter.
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clocker
Anonymous=irrelevant.
Dig all the dirt you want, expose corruption and backdoor dealings all day long...it makes no difference.
We know the who/what/why of the latest financial crisis for instance, and yet not a single player has been indicted or arraigned.
In fact, the major players behind the Wall Street crisis are making more money than before and using taxpayer money to lobby/defend themselves.
We KNOW who's guilty and should be held accountable, don't need Anon or Wikileaks to expose them.
Doesn't matter.
Apparently, The senate is not working as the public representative, rather they are more likely acting like the board of directors of the Goldman Sachs. This is a financial terrorism against the general people of U.S and the consequences are far more wider spread. It's very disheartening to see, in a democratic country where everyone gets to speak nothing is done to fight it, probably because their very base of the finances is dependable on such pathetic system called the capitalism. If people are looking for guilty, they only need to look into the mirror. Some have made fortune at others expense, those who did, were not selected on the basis of intelligence or intellect or ability but only and only greed.
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A bunch of nerds. How can they possibly pose a threat?
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prpower
A bunch of nerds. How can they possibly pose a threat?
Well thought out reply since obviously nerds couldn't create the Atomic bomb or biological weapons or anything harmless like that.
Btw prpower who exactly do you think drives civilization forward ,the football players?
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IdolEyes787
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Originally Posted by
prpower
A bunch of nerds. How can they possibly pose a threat?
Well thought out reply since obviously nerds couldn't create the Atomic bomb or biological weapons or anything harmless like that.
Btw prpower who exactly do you think drives civilization forward ,the football players?
You can tell from his posting habits that he was recently bullied by a bunch of nerds.
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Their "danger" (to the establishment) isn't in the individual acts they pull off. It's in the publicity they generate and the precedent they set--that individuals can impact goverments and large corporations. It's about feelings of empowerment that encourages young people to get involved and that sort of thing snowball. It's all part of a trend along with the Occupy movement, and the increasing electoral successes of the Pirate Party.
Re: Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
They're at it again:
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#AntiSec™ (wtf? we hate copyright...)
> Can I haz candy?
> :3
Greetings Global Pirates! Having fun riding the waves of the Global Financial Meltdown? We sure are.
Did Bradley Manning get his fancy LulzXmas dinner yet?
hm... guess not.
Still trying to lock him up for life?
Still think we're just joking around?
That's OK. The time for talk is over.
So now let's talk... about cocks:
It's time to dump the full 75,000 names, addresses, CCs and md5 hashed passwords to every customer that has ever paid Stratfor.
But that's not all: we're also dumping ~860,000 usernames, email addresses, and md5 hashed passwords for everyone who's ever registered on Stratfor's site.
> ...
> WTF?!?!
> Did you say 860,000 accounts????
> Did you notice 50,000 of these email addresses are .mil and .gov?
> fuck men...we're pretty much screwed up now...tinfoil hat please here..
> yeah, for the lulz \:D/
> sounds illegal...
* /me phones police
> holy shit, like frontal crash at 180mph!!!
> :P
> lol xD
We almost have sympathy for those poor DHS employees and australian billionaires who had their bank accounts looted by the lulz (orly? i just fapped).
But what did you expect? All our lives we have been robbed blindly and brutalized by corrupted politicians, establishmentarians and government agencies sex shops, and now it's time to take it back.
We call upon all allied battleships, all armies from darkness, to use and abuse these password lists and credit card information to wreak unholy havok upon the systems and personal email accounts of these rich and powerful oppressors. Kill, kitties, kill and burn them down... peacefully. XD XD
Is that it? 0h hell n0.
On New Years Eve, there will be "noise demonstrations" in front of jails and prisons all over the world to show solidarity with those incarcerated.
On this date, we will be launching our contributions to project mayhem
by attacking multiple law enforcement targets from coast to coast.
That's right: once again we bout to ride on the po po. Problem, officer? umad?
Candiez, pr0n and cookies for LulzXmas:
[ links removed ]
Cunts!
Re: Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
Quote:
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/ \ __________________ ___.__.
/ \ / \_/ __ \_ __ \_ __ < | |
/ Y \ ___/| | \/| | \/\___ |
\____|__ /\___ |__| |__| / ____|
\/ \/ \/
.____ .__ ____ ___
| | __ __| | _______\ \/ / _____ _____ ______
| | | | | | \___ /\ / / \\__ \ / ___/
| |___| | | |__/ / / \| Y Y \/ __ \_\___ \
|_______ |____/|____/_____ /___/\ |__|_| (____ /____ >
\/ \/ \_/ \/ \/ \/
#AntiSec™ (wtf? we hate copyright...)
> Can I haz candy?
> :3
Greetings Global Pirates! Having fun riding the waves of the Global Financial Meltdown? We sure are.
Did Bradley Manning get his fancy LulzXmas dinner yet?
hm... guess not.
Still trying to lock him up for life?
Still think we're just joking around?
That's OK. The time for talk is over.
So now let's talk... about cocks:
It's time to dump the full 75,000 names, addresses, CCs and md5 hashed passwords to every customer that has ever paid Stratfor.
But that's not all: we're also dumping ~860,000 usernames, email addresses, and md5 hashed passwords for everyone who's ever registered on Stratfor's site.
> ...
> WTF?!?!
> Did you say 860,000 accounts????
> Did you notice 50,000 of these email addresses are .mil and .gov?
> fuck men...we're pretty much screwed up now...tinfoil hat please here..
> yeah, for the lulz \:D/
> sounds illegal...
* /me phones police
> holy shit, like frontal crash at 180mph!!!
> :P
> lol xD
We almost have sympathy for those poor DHS employees and australian billionaires who had their bank accounts looted by the lulz (orly? i just fapped).
But what did you expect? All our lives we have been robbed blindly and brutalized by corrupted politicians, establishmentarians and government agencies sex shops, and now it's time to take it back.
We call upon all allied battleships, all armies from darkness, to use and abuse these password lists and credit card information to wreak unholy havok upon the systems and personal email accounts of these rich and powerful oppressors. Kill, kitties, kill and burn them down... peacefully. XD XD
Is that it? 0h hell n0.
On New Years Eve, there will be "noise demonstrations" in front of jails and prisons all over the world to show solidarity with those incarcerated.
On this date, we will be launching our contributions to project mayhem
by attacking multiple law enforcement targets from coast to coast.
That's right: once again we bout to ride on the po po. Problem, officer? umad?
Candiez, pr0n and cookies for LulzXmas:
[ links removed ]
So it's settled then, savantism actually exists.
Re: Anonymous; Vigilante or ... Terrorist?
I must say their level of grammar is exceptional compared to the other BT kiddies. The media here are about as useful as The Daily Mail is in the UK, hopeless! This article however isn't too bad:
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/securit...229-1pdce.html
At least the Sydney Morning Herald's readers (read comments) have a little more sense then their journalists.
Did Stratfor really not encrypt data? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-2...etails/3751038 and http://www.alertboot.com/blog/blogs/...lain-text.aspx
