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    In the movie it didn't seem like it was a year after the defeat of the 300. Battle of Plataea ended the war and Xerxes had even returned back to Persia in between. Plataea is also long way from Thermopylai, in the movie the place looked the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asuran View Post
    In the movie it didn't seem like it was a year after the defeat of the 300. Battle of Plataea ended the war and Xerxes had even returned back to Persia in between.
    So what battle were they depicting at the end then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheese View Post
    So what battle were they depicting at the end then?
    In my opinion it was still the Battle of Thermopylae, which the Spartan-led army eventually lost. Here's the logical timeline of the battles from Wiki:

    1st NaxosSardisEphesusLade2nd NaxosEretriaMarathonThermopylaeArtemisiumSalamisPotideaOlynthusPlataeaMycaleSestusByzantiumEionDoriskosEurymedonPampremisProsoptisSalamis in Cyprus

    The Athenians under Themistocles went to Salamis Island, where their fellow citizens had fled after Xerxes I captured their city following his victory at Thermopylae.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Artemisium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asuran View Post
    In my opinion it was still the Battle of Thermopylae, which the Spartan-led army eventually lost. Here's the logical timeline of the battles from Wiki:

    1st NaxosSardisEphesusLade2nd NaxosEretriaMarathonThermopylaeArtemisiumSalamisPotideaOlynthusPlataeaMycaleSestusByzantiumEionDoriskosEurymedonPampremisProsoptisSalamis in Cyprus

    The Athenians under Themistocles went to Salamis Island, where their fellow citizens had fled after Xerxes I captured their city following his victory at Thermopylae.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Artemisium
    So what was the battle depicted throughout most of the film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheese View Post
    So what was the battle depicted throughout most of the film?
    Most of the film was about the 300's part in the Battle of Thermopylae.

    After the Battle of Thermopylae, there was the naval Battle of Salamis which turned the war in Greeks' favour, after that Xerxes I returned to Persia and finally the war ended in Battle of Plataea. None of these historical facts would make any sense, had persians lost at the pass at the point where the movie ends, which in my opinion is direct continuation to the defeat of the 300, not a different battle a year later in a different place after a naval battle in Salamis and Xerxes' returning to Persia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asuran View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheese View Post
    So what was the battle depicted throughout most of the film?
    Most of the film was about the 300's part in the Battle of Thermopylae.

    After the Battle of Thermopylae, there was the naval Battle of Salamis which turned the war in Greeks' favour, after that Xerxes I returned to Persia and finally the war ended in Battle of Plataea. None of these historical facts would make any sense, had persians lost at the pass at the point where the movie ends.
    The movie doesn't end there though, it ends with the start of the battle of Plataea. From the film itself:

    So my king died, and my brothers died, barely a year ago. Long I pondered my king's cryptic talk of victory. But time has proven him wise, for from free Greek to free Greek the word was spread that bold Leonidas and his 300, so far from home, laid down their lives, not just for Sparta, but for all Greece and the promise this country holds. Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Plataea, Xerxes hordes face obliteration! Just there the barbarians gather, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers, knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of 300. Yet they stare now across the plain at 10,000 Spartans commanding 30,000 free Greeks! Ho! The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one! Good odds for any Greek. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny, and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks, men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! To victory!
    So your contention that:
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    Yeah, that wouldn't fly because the bigger spartan army actually lost after the point where the movie ends.
    Is incorrect.
    Last edited by Cheese; 04-04-2007 at 01:50 PM.

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    I stand corrected, seems like I remember the ending of the movie wrong in that case.

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    You are completely dumb, I am Greek and have studied all this in detail for more than 3 years. It is like a teenager from Finland trying to teach me my history.

    I told you before leave for a while the forums/wikipedia and read a real book.

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    sert is right, wikipedia is a very poor reference and is not a substitute for any real book of history or subject for that matter.

    I think I'll read up on the Spartans, since I don't know much myself.

    But back on topic, the movie was still good
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    Is a great movie!! I vote 9 in IMDB!

    Frank Miller rocks!! LOL

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