Japan's $5 billion child porn industry

[Snee]

The main problem with this particular thread, and threadstarter, is that it's a combination of dubious sources, a bit of exaggeration and quite a bit of him making it sound as if Japan is the worst country in the world or somesuch, while he simultaneously ignores or distorts anything that doesn't fit.

It's a bit like his hangup on the age of consent, which in effect is higher in much of Japan than in a lot of western countries, what with regional ordnaces overriding the base-law.

Kiddie-pron obviously isn't cool, but quoting some sensationalist article which in turn quotes some IMO dubious sources accomplishes nothing.

The whole business with cartoon porn being such a problem in Japan is also a bit strange, what with how it's actually treated in the rest of the world.

It's also a bit funny, reading the article, that it says:

Last October, the Japanese government issued the results of its Special Opinion Poll on Harmful Materials, in which 86.5% of respondents said that manga and art should be subject to regulation for child pornography...

That hardly sounds as if child-pornography, in cartoons or not, is acceptable by a majority, and furthermore, as that quote concerns cartoons alone, you have to wonder how many more would object to the real thing.

All of that, coupled with all the nasty crap going on in a lot of western presumably more advanced cultures (at least that's how I'm reading him), wrt child abuse and whatnot, makes me wonder how much worse Japan is than anywhere else, really, if at all, when it comes to actual abuse and directly harmful actions rather than some idealized notion of innocence and (extremely and unpleasantly so) youth being desirable.

[Snee]

And on a somewhat unrelated note, a vietnamese friend and I was watching some haduri-vids yesterday (Korean thingie), and I found it really unpleasant (she didn't notice, I don't think) finding some tards commenting on on whether some girl (can't have been more than 12 or so) was a virgin or not and so forth (it got worse), and this was westerners (at least I'm pretty sure it was) making those comments.

Some seriously nasty people come out to play, from all over, on the internet, and people viewing young girls as sex-objects, at that.

[Biggles]

You're disagreeing over the degree of mentalism in the Niponese? Quality!

I thought so.

[Squeamous]

On a slightly related note, I bought a dress the other day that my OH says makes me look like a Japanese schoolgirl. Admittedly I bought it in a Niponese shop in Covent garden. Now I'm wondering if I dare wear it out lest I end up with half a dozen letcherous old orientals stuck to the hem .

[Actatoi]

Pedophiles are the ones that watch child porn, cartoon or not.

Yes, ofcourse since pedophiles are attracted by pre pubertal girls. But you rather ban it and make it fucking bad, let's hate more on them. Let's make them disgusted over themselfs for something they were born with, I'm heterosexual, someone I know is a homosexual. You judge me and him/her because of that?

Eventually it will escalate. The point is there's a huge market for child porn when there shouldn't be one at all.

Your assumption.

But lets ignore the fact that the $6 billion is fuelled by pedophiles. Its just cartoons!!! WHY SO BAD?!!?

Yes, tell me why it's so bad. Bring me some serious facts, serious studies. Tell me, argue like you actually know some more about it and maybe I will listen, I often tend to do it and can change opinion if I see I'm wrong.

If the cartoon CP industry alone is $6 billion i dont want to know what happens in the real world. Its just revolting. Whats more revolting are the Japanese who instead of being revolted are actually defending this.

I don't see any logic here. Open your eyes to the real world then instead, like Biggles are trying to point out. Instead of focusing on cartoon.

[Biggles]

On a slightly related note, I bought a dress the other day that my OH says makes me look like a Japanese schoolgirl. Admittedly I bought it in a Niponese shop in Covent garden. Now I'm wondering if I dare wear it out lest I end up with half a dozen letcherous old orientals stuck to the hem .

an image in my head I could have done without

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/pics though

I ask on behalf of Mulder like

[chalice]

I had a friend when I was growing up. He was more a friend of my cousin's whom I met vicariously.

He was uniformly ugly with very little social skills. I had never held out much hope for him, knowing that our paths would soon part.

I jumped on a bus several weeks ago to find my previously mentioned cousin driving the bus. Free bus journey fwt. However, that's not important. During our re-collective conversation my cousin relayed to me certain sobering facts. Fact.

Turns out that Brian sexually abused his sister's daughter whom he happen to share a domicile with.

And you think you know people.

[Biggles]

I had a friend when I was growing up. He was more a friend of my cousin's whom I met vicariously.

He was uniformly ugly with very little social skills. I had never held out much hope for him, knowing that our paths would soon part.

I jumped on a bus several weeks ago to find my previously mentioned cousin driving the bus. Free bus journey fwt. However, that's not important. During our re-collective conversation my cousin relayed to me certain sobering facts. Fact.

Turns out that Brian sexually abused his sister's daughter whom he happen to share a domicile with.

And you think you know people.

That said your original assessment seems close to the mark - and with a name like Brian probably not a big reader of Japanese books either.

[Mr JP Fugley]

I had a friend when I was growing up. He was more a friend of my cousin's whom I met vicariously.

He was uniformly ugly with very little social skills. I had never held out much hope for him, knowing that our paths would soon part.

I jumped on a bus several weeks ago to find my previously mentioned cousin driving the bus. Free bus journey fwt. However, that's not important. During our re-collective conversation my cousin relayed to me certain sobering facts. Fact.

Turns out that Brian sexually abused his sister's daughter whom he happen to share a domicile with.

And you think you know people.

Went for lunch with a chum the other day, an apres Mass thing. Long story short, someone he knew and thought a decent spud had been named in a Paternity suit. He took the DNA test as requested to prove the wean wasn't his.

Couple of days later Plod came to his work and lifted him, turns out his DNA showed that he was a chap they wanted for a kidnap, rape and murder.

[Squeamous]

an image in my head I could have done without

...

/pics though

I ask on behalf of Mulder like

*sigh* since it's Mulder....