BT politics general thread. Oh, the drama

**BobFromAccounting** · 01-09-2010, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by ra0ul

Nah. Most trackers pursue traders not because its the thing to do. Its because of security paranoia. The established ones wont be excluded from anything.

It's not the established ones I'm talking about, that's why I said *most*. Besides, anyone with common sense realizes there's no such thing as 'security', if feds or copyright enforcers want to get into any decent sized site, they can, they will, and they're most likely already there. No matter how ardently you hunt traders, it's not going to stop the real security risks from getting in.

**hagckz0r** · 01-09-2010, 07:07 PM

TL should be the best example? They don't care about authorities / or don't seem to care? Also they don't have nerds who try to hunt traders.

**4pirates** · 01-09-2010, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by The_Martinator

Having have studied about Rousseau a bit, I have to tell you that you used his quote in the wrong context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract_theory

Trading kinda goes a different path, IMO.

You are missing the whole point here.

...A building is a symbol, as is the act of destroying it. Symbols are given power by people. A symbol, in and of itself is powerless, but with enough people behind it, blowing up a building can change the world. What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people *with* guns. I am just your typical nobody simple user. No name, no rank, thats why they can verbally attack me, they can wipe me out, they can globally ban me at any time that they want. I am not the system itself but when you think about it they do not own me because I have power to resist.

I want *everyone* to *remember*, why they *need* us!

Trading is a lovely world because people created it and gave power in it. Fst has a trading section. Nothing illegal here. I cant speculate but If you look hard enough every top tracker to a little trackers full with traders, sellers and people that only use the tracker. Its life in general, a combo of everything when you say NO to one part than you only get some of their attention nothing more. You can not shout like dont do it (equals to global ban) because you can never know whats going on. Banning me here or there never helps the system and that attacking dogs that ban some of us bites their own bosses at the end because some of us like a hard rock. My Experience says every tracker every single one of them has all kind of people at their top. I didnt invent trading its a way of life I am just using it and some tracker bosses will get very angry to traders because they dont want a clean system they want to stop me and do whatever I do by themselves (thats where your Rousseau quote comes handy.)

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**Burnsy** · 01-09-2010, 08:00 PM

FST and it's members never fail to astound me in their ability to take a topic.... ANY topic, doesn't matter what it is... have a bit of serious discussion on said topic, go on to flame the shit out of it... then pick any tangent at all and go off on it

Never a dull moment....

**MaNiJaK** · 01-09-2010, 08:19 PM

< Nimueh> let's start by kicking out all of serb's friends *evil*

It would be much less pain if you just leave instead of doing this.

**falloniye** · 01-09-2010, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by MaNiJaK

< Nimueh> let's start by kicking out all of serb's friends *evil*

It would be much less pain if you just leave instead of doing this.

It would be even less of a pain, had that quote not been copy/pasted from a private channel conversation, having nothing to do with FST.

**Cabalo** · 01-09-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by falloniye

Originally Posted by MaNiJaK

It would be much less pain if you just leave instead of doing this.

It would be even less of a pain, had that quote not been copy/pasted from a private channel conversation, having nothing to do with FST.

And who are you to say what has something to do with FST and what doesn't ?

**BobFromAccounting** · 01-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Cabalo

Originally Posted by falloniye

It would be even less of a pain, had that quote not been copy/pasted from a private channel conversation, having nothing to do with FST.

And who are you to say what has something to do with FST and what doesn't ?

They're one of the people partaking in the private channel conversation who doesn't want uber secret messages being leaked

**falloniye** · 01-09-2010, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cabalo

Originally Posted by falloniye

It would be even less of a pain, had that quote not been copy/pasted from a private channel conversation, having nothing to do with FST.

And who are you to say what has something to do with FST and what doesn't ?

because i was part of the convo, and FST wasn't ever mentioned. it was about another issue, entirely, and was (apparently) relayed here, in order to cause trouble.