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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post

    Is there some trade sort of trade embargo in the plans then?
    I wouldn't put it past them.

    Besides, our state government needs the extra revenue from the sale of their agricultural products.
    1. surely if they parted your state would need less revenue, or are they correct that your state takes from them and gives it to other counties (can you say wealth redistribution?)

    2. You believe in taxing business?
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
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    I wouldn't put it past them.

    Besides, our state government needs the extra revenue from the sale of their agricultural products.
    1. surely if they parted your state would need less revenue, or are they correct that your state takes from them and gives it to other counties (can you say wealth redistribution?)

    Unfortunately, you are right about that. The bulk of the state's expenses are in northern Arizona (if you include Maricopa County), and so the agricultural areas of southern Arizona provide more revenue than what is spent on them.

    2. You believe in taxing business?
    I never said that businesses should pay no taxes.
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    Then I say let them separate.

    But it still looks like something from the onion news network to me.
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post

    I never said that businesses should pay no taxes.
    Please reconcile the above statement with this: "Besides, our state government needs the extra revenue from the sale of their agricultural products."
    How does the state derive revenue from sales if not through taxation?

    Can you explain why business is supposed to be exempt from taxation?
    You are content to allow business to profit off the infrastructure that taxpayers provide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 999969999 View Post

    I never said that businesses should pay no taxes.
    Please reconcile the above statement with this: "Besides, our state government needs the extra revenue from the sale of their agricultural products."
    How does the state derive revenue from sales if not through taxation?

    Can you explain why business is supposed to be exempt from taxation?
    You are content to allow business to profit off the infrastructure that taxpayers provide?
    I think you may have misread what you quoted.
    When I was a kid I was told "We do these things not because they're easy, but because they're hard"

    Now all I hear is " I won't do anything unless there's something in it for me"

  6. The Drawing Room   -   #16
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    Perhaps so.
    Oh well.

    It's good to know that 9 approves of taxing businesses.
    If the south of Arizona secedes, businesses in his part of the state will have to step up and remediate the shortfall- 9 sounds like he's onboard.
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