FLAC Scene Tracker?

[vinhkhang01]

I see.

MP3Scene is not closed.

"Close" as in nearly what he's looking for.

[ca_aok]

They sometimes get uploaded at What, until they eventually get trumped by a user made perfect rip.

[campodetenis]

They sometimes get uploaded at What, until they eventually get trumped by a user made perfect rip.

I guess so, also at waffles, but I'm kind of a scene release collector guy. Don't ask me why, but I've been one since 03. Lurkin around for obscure releases is hard, and what or waffles is not the place for flac scene (dupeswise).

[mjmacky]

They sometimes get uploaded at What, until they eventually get trumped by a user made perfect rip.

I kind of already know what FLACs are, in a technical sense. However, I must be missing something if I couldn't tell you the difference that would merit trumping one FLAC for another.

[garbage]

lossless ftw

[n00bz0r]

lossless ftw

Thanks for that really insightful post.

[Burnsy]

They sometimes get uploaded at What, until they eventually get trumped by a user made perfect rip.

I kind of already know what FLACs are, in a technical sense. However, I must be missing something if I couldn't tell you the difference that would merit trumping one FLAC for another.

I'm the same. If something's lossless, then how can it be 'made even more lossless'? How do you determine which identical copy is the most identical?

[n00bz0r]

I kind of already know what FLACs are, in a technical sense. However, I must be missing something if I couldn't tell you the difference that would merit trumping one FLAC for another.

I'm the same. If something's lossless, then how can it be 'made even more lossless'? How do you determine which identical copy is the most identical?

Scene released FLACs are usually ripped at burst speeds. Which essentially means, the disc is read only once at high speed..thereby decreasing the accuracy of the rip.
However, in secure mode, the disc is read at slow speed more than once, and blocks of data are compared for accuracy. The final output is a 100% accurate rip.

[campodetenis]

They base their criteria on the accuracy of the rip. Depending on the quality (state) of the media, and the ripping technology (hardware/software), you can get a 98% accurate rip, 99% or even a 100% rip. The prefered method for ripping is EAC software; as the rip is being done, the program determines the accuracy of the rip, and after is finished, it compares the rip with the original file and determines if the copy is exact (as in exact to the byte) or almost exact, and then it writes a log file that has a hashcheck to prevent people from altering it.

If you upload a 100% accurate flac + log + cue, you can trump a 99% accurate rip.

I'm not a perfect rip maniac, but I can understand the people who is. I'm a scene release maniac for no reason whatsoever.

The philosophical part of your question is what I like the most as, what is indeed a perfect copy of something that is a mass produced copy?

"Hey I have another 'original' copy that's not equal to the 'original' copy you have. Let's make a perfect copy!"

More importantly, isn't it that music, when coming from a media, is inherently loosy?

[Burnsy]

Thanks for the info guys, certainly makes things a little clearer...

Technically though, how can something be called FLAC (which to me means an exact/perfect copy) if it's not 100% to begin with? Isn't that an 'almost FLAC'?