More Powerful Than The Government?

[TIDE-HSV]

BTW, j2, did I mention that I'd copyrighted the expression "High-tech Luddite?"

[j2k4]

Originally posted by TIDE-HSV@21 April 2003 - 11:08
BTW, j2, did I mention that I'd copyrighted the expression "High-tech Luddite?"

Whuzzat you?
What is your learned opinion on my use of said term? Is short-term licensing available? I will change it if you wish-I am not surprised you copyrighted it; it is a superb description.
Hmmmmm. What else-GOT IT!!!!!!

[J'Pol]

Isn't high tech luddite verging on tautologous.

Or am I qualifying a superlative.

Just wondering.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by JmiF@21 April 2003 - 12:11
Isn't high tech luddite verging on tautologous.

Or am I qualifying a superlative.

Just wondering.

It doesn't matter; just be careful with that stuff.

Actually, at first blush, it may seem to teeter on the brink of tautology , but application of a finer distinction reveals that which keeps it from tipping completely into the abyss.
I would lean toward your second option.

In any case, it really sounds neat.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by j2k4+21 April 2003 - 18:24--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 21 April 2003 - 18:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--JmiF@21 April 2003 - 12:11
Isn&#39;t high tech luddite verging on tautologous.

Or am I qualifying a superlative.

Just wondering.

It doesn&#39;t matter; just be careful with that stuff.

Actually, at first blush, it may seem to teeter on the brink of tautology , but application of a finer distinction reveals that which keeps it from tipping completely into the abyss.
I would lean toward your second option.

In any case, it really sounds neat. [/b][/quote]
Thanks for that.

At least I will be able to sleep tonight.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JmiF@21 April 2003 - 09:22
It must be me. I can´t get that link to work either.

Is there a conspiracy to avoid me reading sites on US and International Law. Come to think of it, it´s probably the same thing nowadays.

How can freely sharing a file be a felony. For heaven´s sake that really is taking things too far. I know your country is based on money, commerciality and big business but a felony. You are making people criminals based on the fact that a large corporation lost a sale. Even thought the "felon" made no gain himself. That can´t be natural justice.

1. Yes, JmiF it is true.
Last night we Americans had a secret meeting and decided you will not be allowed to access our hyperlinks. ( That explanation, while ludicrous, is far better than the more likely probability that none of us knows how to post a usable link...).

2. Clearly you are just venting as it is obvious that you realize that "natural justice" and &#39;The Law" bear no resemblance whatsoever. Unfortunately, as U.S. influence continues to grow, our laws will probably begin to be implemented in other countries too. Right now we do seem to have the biggest bat, you know.

[J'Pol]

There was a severe build up of pressure in my spleenal area, so venting was unavoidable.

Kidding aside, to make file sharing (on a personal and not commercial basis) a felony is absolutely staggering.

However I think the real issue remains of how anyone would prosecute such a case. It would be difficult to justify the proportionality of, for example, obtaining a search warrant to secure the evidence. Particularly if the information in support of it intimated that it was not for personal gain.

As ever I am talking of the position in Europe, where we have the European Convention on Human Rights, which ensures that any investigation must be proportionate to the offences alleged.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JmiF@21 April 2003 - 12:52


As ever I am talking of the position in Europe, where we have the European Convention on Human Rights, which ensures that any investigation must be proportionate to the offences alleged.

You are indeed fortunate ( if only temporarily).

Over here the RIAA/MPAA will be able to drive their agenda through the gaping loopholes of the Patriot Act and who knows what erosive legislation to come.
ONE conviction in the States and you can bet they&#39;ll be contacting their counterparts in Europe looking for a way in there also.
I&#39;m guessing that the U.S. isn&#39;t their primary target anyway. We are still affluent enough to grease the wheels locally. The Asian market seems to be the biggest source of bootleg/unauthorized material and all this could be but the prelude to a serious attack over there. A few warmup cases at home, just to test the water, and BANG, off to hunt the big fish.
I think they&#39;re gonna need a bigger boat...

[TIDE-HSV]

Well, having been called away by the grubby necessity of living-making, I return to a virtual starburst of erudition. Who&#39;d ever have anticipated seeing "tautology" being discussed by common pirates? First, j2, the term is yours to use freely. All you have to do is give me proper perpetual credit. Now, for "High-Tech Luddites." Let&#39;s not forget that the original, and all, Luddites are relatively high-tech. The original Luddites&#39; steel pitchforks and scythes were extremely high-tech, compared to stone tools. Every good Luddite is only against the next step of progress - the one that takes his job.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JmiF@21 April 2003 - 12:52


Kidding aside, to make file sharing (on a personal and not commercial basis) a felony is absolutely staggering.

Allow me to play the Devil&#39;s Advocate for a moment...

"Mr. JmiF,
What exactly is so personal about you&#39;re sharing our legally copyrighted file over the internet with @ 1 billion people ?"
"You must send out alot of Christmas cards..."