Got A Call From My Isp Today, About Piracy...

[Jibbler]

Originally posted by Switeck@25 May 2003 - 10:46
Because the WHOLE thing that triggered Peer Guardian's warnings might be because you have a download which contains a blocked ip as one of its sources.

You might be literally jumping at shadows... those ips weren't trying to connect with you, you were trying to connect with them.

And they MAY not even be real hostiles due to over-broad block ranges of Peer Guardian.
I've already turned up 1 university that was supposedly a hostile p2p monitor.

I don't use PG for this very reason. By blocking IP ranges that are suspicious, you are probably stopping plenty of legitimate filesharers from downloading from you. Can you verify that the IPs on your block lists are really hostil?

[nueromancer]

I would use the quote but for some reason it does not seem to work correctly for me...

@Jibbler

I just recently got PG, because of the things I heard on this message board. Are you saying that it does not protect me at all? I am running XP Pro's Firewall also, but since I allow people to see and use my files, that really leaves me wide open does it not? You said PG only protects from people seeing my shared files,

then why are people still DLing from me?

Actually Jib, please respond PM, I have a lot to ask...

[Jibbler]

Originally posted by nueromancer@26 May 2003 - 23:01
I just recently got PG, because of the things I heard on this message board. Are you saying that it does not protect me at all? I am running XP Pro's Firewall also, but since I allow people to see and use my files, that really leaves me wide open does it not? You said PG only protects from people seeing my shared files,
then why are people still DLing from me?

PG may be able to protect you from some attacks, but this is guesswork. You don't know the IP of the RIAA/MPAA, so you can't block them until you identify them. PG can block "known" IP addresses. If this makes you sleep better at night, well, grab 40 winks.

I also run WinXP firewall. It has no bells and whistles, but it works 100%. Its there to close ports, that's it.

When you share files, you have a port open. People outside can only see what is shared, they can't see it all.

[RealitY]

In addition if you don't want people to see your full list of shared files, use the privacy patch.

[judgeofallandnothing]

i posted something like this before Comcast called me cause i shared the tmd version of goldmember when it was still in theatres. I think isps only go after u when ur sharing a tmd movie that is still being played in theatres. Cause any dvd quality stuff could just be a backup. I mean its not illegal to own a backup copy of a video. So yea....

P.S
I am a noob dont be too hard on me

[melgl]

i read in the Mirror today that kazaa is the most used thingy ever on the internet with 230 million downloads over the weekend....excellent

[Switeck]

Originally posted by Jibbler@26 May 2003 - 21:55
I don't use PG for this very reason. By blocking IP ranges that are suspicious, you are probably stopping plenty of legitimate filesharers from downloading from you. Can you verify that the IPs on your block lists are really hostil?

The excessive number of blocked ips is quite low compared to then number of known hostile ranges that ARE blocked.

We ARE hammering out exactly what ranges are 'good' and 'bad' -- and narrowing down many.

Sure, we end up blocking a LOT of oddball business ip ranges -- but many of them are just front/shell companies for RIAA/MPAA/BSA. This is reflected in the amount and kind of p2p traffic they generate as well as any paper-trails we have on them.

An ip can be back-fed into a reverse DNS lookup to spit out the 'owner' of that ip range. Oftentimes, it only spits out the TOP owner, not the one who owns a subset of that. But many of the 'usual suspects' turn up with THESE owners:
Media Defender
Retspan
Dotster.com
Cable & Wireless (GAINCME, OverPeer, MPAA, RIAA homepage sites)
Cogent Communications
Verio, Inc.

If I see THESE names show up in a reverse lookup, I don't much bother seeking a 2nd opinion -- because they have CONSISTANTLY shown themselves as being hostile.

[Jibbler]

Ok fair enough. Just realize that the "backdoor" is at your ISP headquarters, and not at the end of your firewall. The method they use to verify that you are sharing a copyrighted file isn't important. You can't identify every end user who downloads from you. So in my experience, PG is heavily flawed.

[RealitY]

Better than not, I have contless attempts from these ranges that were blocked.

[Schmiggy_JK23]

Um, they did send me a hard letter, if any one cares. I would scan it, but apparently, our scanner is acting up big time. Maybe I can plug it into my machine, and xp can find drivers for it, as my moms old 98se machine doesnt seem to work right with it after a reformat.

Not that I think you guys dont believe me, cuz you should, but just to show it off, as a badge of honor, lol. first paragraph says this:

"Charter Communications has been notified by mediaforce that you have been involved in the exchange of unauthorized copies of copyrighted motion pictures, specifically: Filename : A Man Apart {2of2}.avi first found 28 apr 2003, 9:35:46 edt."

funny stuff