blame sct

[jasperr]

i don't understand, why this discussion(again).... yeah, the only thing that sucks is that just about the only way to get an invite to sct is to buy'em... unless ya wait for their yearly generousity which they tend to give out at least one for nothing... lol

but even so, it doesn't effect the performance of the site.. i've had no problems at all with them thus far, and i've been a member for sometime now... if some dumbass wants to waste their money with paying to leech that their problem... it's not wright but, bitching about it isn't gonna get the message accross nor will it change a thing.. true they don't adhear to the concept of filesharing, but, they also don't say pay or your out either, at least from what i know.. as far as TL goes... i've heard a mixed bag about them also.. either way, i'm not happy with the paths these sites have chosen but, from my standpoint the topic of this thread is irrelevant .. cause it has no effect on the members really or the overall operations of the site(s) in question..

(and here i go with my anti-traderism.. )

but here's a thought... perhaps, just perhaps .... maybe, if people didn't highly covet these sites so much and traders didn't go rampant with the desire to get'em (at the expense of others) ... maybe they would never have chosen to initiate such systems.... but, since traders are traders and the trackers know that traders don't give a crap... they decided to impliment thses p2l and take advantage of the situation... and here we are discussing issues that probally we brought on ourselves overtime..
(mind you i'm not just saying it's traders fault... so sorry for highlighting them, in reality its everyone who highly covets them without merit.. good sites yes.. but think of it this way, what usually happens when ya put people on pedestools??..... they get big heads)

anywho
-REGUARDS

[DasFox]

When the war settles would someone please tell me who or what is p2l ?

And is TL, TorrentLeech?

THANKS

[jasperr]

When the war settles would someone please tell me who or what is p2l ?

And is TL, TorrentLeech?

THANKS

lol...

yes TL is TorrentLeech

and P2L = Pay to Leech

it's a system where ya pay X amount of $$ to leech files without having to seed back anything.. (supossedly)

a kinda crappy system for all BUT, the site admins....

[Swordfish]

p2l = pay to leech. (in effect, paying for upload credits and becoming "immune" to being disabled. People tend to just leech and not really seed back too.)
TL = torrentleech (a torrent tracker)

EDIT: Beaten to it grrr

Anyway, I'm shocked at how many people there are bitching at ScT.

Why don't we just make one sticky for all the ScT haters so it doesn't clog up the rest of the forum

I wasn't too impressed with paying 20 Euros to invite my friend, but what can you do? (Apart from bitching).

I don't agree with it. Maybe 10 Euros is more acceptable, but on the plus side, it does stop the leeching mofos getting in.

[jasperr]

p2l = pay to leech. (in effect, paying for upload credits and becoming "immune" to being disabled. People tend to just leech and not really seed back too.)
TL = torrentleech (a torrent tracker)

EDIT: Beaten to it grrr

Anyway, I'm shocked at how many people there are bitching at ScT.

Why don't we just make one sticky for all the ScT haters so it doesn't clog up the rest of the forum

I wasn't too impressed with paying 20 Euros to invite my friend, but what can you do? (Apart from bitching).

I don't agree with it. Maybe 10 Euros is more acceptable, but on the plus side, it does stop the leeching mofos getting in.

thats one of the main points.... ya shouldn't have to be paying for an invite.. but, they do give invites at least once a year accross the board.. only problem with that is they are in such demand people think they deserve more cause they are mad that if they have 5 "freinds" they have to pay the money, since they olny give out 1 or 2 invites a year for free.. and the rest.. well, the traders get mad cause they don't want to shell out the money to buy themselves invites to trade'em off.. lol .. thats about it in a nutshell....

[rogerse]

p2l is waaay worse.It slows everyone down when a few lazy ppl leech like hell just because admins want to profit, if more ppl simply pay they're won't be any seeders and it'd be a dead site.

they don't give the kind of amount that would let you leech like hell without seeding. That's the difference between sct and other "real" p2l trackers. For example in rev tt or bmtv you get hundreds of gigs for a fair price which really do alow you to leech without seeding. But on sct you get a small amount for a high price. That imo is simply a small reward for your help with the tracker costs. If they really wouldn't care about the site and it's users they would do like others, hundreds of gigs at small prices, banning if you refuse to donate and stuff like that

Yeah, meant others unlike SCT, like torrentleech where you can pay for vip and get unlimited leech for period of time, and so really slowing things down, all for paying for "server costs".

Thats the kind of thing ppl should complain about, selling invites to ppl who are members isn't that bad, not like selling no non-members, as if your selling the site itself as a service.

[pone44]

Wow, i hear it is a good site but do not know for myself. But paying to get in is wrong-s*t, every members wants 30 eur for 1 invite. not dissing the site. I do not think they approve of that either? i am sure people help them out w-out the invite situation factored? tl has no system like that from what they post here.

[5+4=9]

What's the problem with p2l??

You only pay if you want

It's their home they do whatever they want

If you don't like it stay away

[jasperr]

tl has no system like that from what they post here.

it's called V.I.P on TL

[dythim]

Every tracker is different. You do not have to P2L for most of them but if you don't like it cause the wait is too long to dl something, then just get it elsewhere. If you don't like certain trackers, then don't use it. Too many trackers out there to be complaining about a few.

I wonder if this is because people want in to ScT and they can't get in so they complain more?