Flac music

[Ratzy Rox]

Waffles and What both have considerably more FLAC torrents than either e**** or pedros. People rate them higher because this is an invite trading board.

Dude, you should learn how to rip vinyl. Seriously.

This is more than a little ignorant.

[th0r]

I didn't know he knew how to rip vinyl, get the fuck off me. If he didn't, it's a suggestion. If he did, fine, ignore it.

[Ratzy Rox]

Im not saying he did, your acting all smug while vinyl is theoretically higher quality than any lossless flac rip regardless of what eac settings or cd drive the ripper used.

...not that you'd actually be able to abx it successfully given how small the difference is :p

I also dont agree that you will find higher quality flac rips on e**** or pedros or that the scene would fuck up ripping FLAC (other than using _ and .'s too often anyway...). FLAC is lossless regardless of how its ripped provided theres no errors which is something you can easily see in a log (and there are still considerably more flac+log torrents on what/waffles than the specalist lossless sites) file and which eac doesnt allow much leeway for anyway. The only thing changing a few settings will do is make it a smaller filesize, something pretty irrelevant when your looking for quality over filesize anyway - if its that much of a concern you can always transcode to wav and back again using your settings with no loss of sound quality.

[fartmaster]

Waffles and What both have considerably more FLAC torrents than either e**** or pedros. People rate them higher because this is an invite trading board.

I was a member of E and Pedro's for over a year, and there were far more quality masterings available on both of them than Oink. Lots of people prefer original CD masterings to the modern loud and compressed remasters, and P and E were both excellent places for these. Also lots of MFSL and DCC stuff. There are a lot more audiophiles on those two sites than Oink. I joined Waffles recently and it's better than Oink was for this stuff but P and E were still better.

[Night0wl]

The problem with Waffles and What? are that any n00b with no idea, or care, about what they are doing see "oohhh FLAC is bigger file size so I can get buffer from it". They don't give a fuck about whether they actually do it right. Oink had the same problem. This isn't only the case for FLAC rips, but also EAC rips encoded to mp3.

Try going through random logs on Waffles or What? and you see what I mean. read offset on 0, errors, tracks skipping etc.

The people on E and Pedro's don't do it for ratio, they do it for the community and they do a good job of it.

If I am looking for an album, I always look on the lossless trackers first, and then if I don't find it there I will try the two W's

[Polarbear]

If I am looking for an album, I always look on the lossless trackers first, and then if I don't find it there I will try the two W's

that's how i do it.

i'm sitting on the toilet reading a music magazine. oh - nice new album, let's have a look.

e - nothing
w and w - nothing

and then i find the scene release at stmusic.

i wish it would be different, but that's how it goes very often.

i'm not complaining. i downloaded great lossless albums, many recent ones. there are just to little flac rips out there. at least for my musical taste.

if i was interested in the monthly top ten albums, i could choose which flac rip is the best.

anyway. i think we all agree when it comes to quality nothing beats e!

[fartmaster]

No but P is equal to E

[Ratzy Rox]

I was a member of E and Pedro's for over a year, and there were far more quality masterings available on both of them than Oink. Lots of people prefer original CD masterings to the modern loud and compressed remasters, and P and E were both excellent places for these.

You reckon? Theres no easy way to measure that annoyingly. Im a member of all 4 but given there are ~10000 more FLAC torrents on waffles/what than on e****/pedros I think its unlikely that the 10000 or so can be explained away as all being remasters with clipping and/or created from compressed sources suggesting theres a greater selection on the lower ranked more general trackers what and waffles but then who knows...

Try going through random logs on Waffles or What? and you see what I mean. read offset on 0, errors, tracks skipping etc.

Cant say ive noticed this problem but then ive only listened to around 300 FLAC albums from waffles/what - im more of a v0 kinda guy, you should report the torrents if you do though. Again, I doubt that there are more 10000 FLAC torrents on each site which have errors when they were ripped suggesting theres a larger selection on those lower ranked trackers.

[Night0wl]

I used to on Oink sometimes although on there there were quite a few likeminded people that beat me to the punch, and you are right I should, but there are also things that are no use reporting. Like the last album I got of What? had no tags, not that there is any problem doing them. The problem is that apart from that the album was fine, so I can't report and reupload. I just tagged them and if there is a problem the next time someone tries to grab it (I have very little doubt that there won't be), I have no choice but to delete it from my client.

[Ratzy Rox]

Heh, i just report away after tagging it myself then reupload it. Some free upload credit for myself and it makes everyone else happier while teaching the original uploader a lesson for the future.

Yeah changing tags means you wont be able to seed 100% of the torrent, >99% will be fine though although you'll appear as a leech due to partial seeding.