most user classes are outdated and lame

[stoi]

The big problem is, its like reinventing the wheel. its been like this for that long, changing it may have dramatic effects.

Lets say we took it off ratio. Then members might just seed to 1:1 and not bother to seed for any longer, we could have 4000 torrents die overnight (we may not but its a risk). We have torrents on the tracker from 18 months ago, with double figure seeders on them, so all of those may die.

I am definately open to suggestions though that are not exploitable, as i agree, how hard is it to upload 25gig on a new 4 gig torrent with a SB, wait 4 weeks and your PU.

[SgtMajor]

Go back a few years and try to think what the coders were thinking when the initial TB source was being written.

Might have to be a manual user class upgrade until the coders catch up, but seeing that it is so easy to reach PU as at today, why not include a torrents completed count (say 10 for basic PU, and doubling for each user class thereafter), and a forum post (which can be the one that asks for the user upgrade).

Torrents must be minimum of 1GB, must be complete 100% downloaded from site and seeded back in accordance with the rules.

Power Users of yesterday are not the same as at today, and like inflation adds costs year on year then the requirements need to change to meet what users can be expected to achieve to reach certain promotion levels.

However, it is up to sites to determine if they are happy with the current setup, but basing it on just an amount of data is an outdated requirement for sure.

[stoi]

Well our SPU is like that.

15 completed torrents in their history, and no hit and runs, or very few anyway.

But its still not that hard to get for a new member.

ok someone thats been a member for 18 months, 600gig uploaded, 500gig downloaded, they are pretty much screwed to reach PU/SPU, but for a new member its a doddle.

[integral]

Sgt summed up the need for manual innovations well. But if you don't want to be that progressive, you could always start smaller. As many have mentioned in this section before, user classes could require a minimum upload and download amount. Keeping these amounts close to each other could possibly discourage users from seeding one torrent to 600% or more.

Another possible innovation could be a point system, or merit. Each user class could have a point/merit requirement as well. Good behavior would result in a point, bad behavior results in a subtraction of points. A good behavior could be uploading a torrent, or seeding a torrent to 1:1. A bad behavior could be overseeding a torrent, hit&running, or maybe even partial seeding.

[monk3y]

@dunson

i hear a lot of complaints but no suggestions to improve.

[walkman79]

IMO User Classes mustn't be based on the download amount. Why? Because, beleive it or not, there are a lot users who are uploaders, they have scene access and they like to share their stuff with the masses. So, if someone has downloaded an old movie but uploaded a ton of new Telesyncs and DVDRips, he doesn't deserve to be rewarded???

There are many ways to contribute to your site:
- Seeding is the first way to contribute and it's a must
- Uploading and Providing new stuff
- Helping out people by Writing Tutorials, etc.
- Moderating on Forums and IRC

That's why some sites have created a Bonus system that rewards the users for certain activity, particularly for every seeding hour.

Btw, TTi has one of the best bonus system IMO.

[integral]

IMO User Classes mustn't be based on the download amount. Why? Because, beleive it or not, there are a lot users who are uploaders, they have scene access and they like to share their stuff with the masses.

Uh, ever hear of Uploader class? Maybe I'm just in an annoyed/bad mood right now, or lately there's an abundance of people in the BitTorrent section who are astoundingly and horribly oblivious to the threads they post in, or the BitTorrent scene in general.

[stoi]

I think what he means is,

To become an uploader, you usually have to become a PU first.

If trackers made PU on download, then those with Scene Axx will never be able to become uploaders, because they would never download from the tracker, just help seed whats already there.

But in my experience, if we get a PM to the staff box, saying, i have Sceneaxx and a Seedbox, then more often than not, they will get a trial at the uploader class just to see how they do. And more often than not, they are useless im afraid lol

[SgtMajor]

But in my experience, if we get a PM to the staff box, saying, i have Sceneaxx and a Seedbox, then more often than not, they will get a trial at the uploader class just to see how they do. And more often than not, they are useless im afraid lol

I didn't even get as far as a trial

Ergo, I'm worse than useless

[walkman79]

I think what he means is,

To become an uploader, you usually have to become a PU first.

If trackers made PU on download, then those with Scene Axx will never be able to become uploaders, because they would never download from the tracker, just help seed whats already there.

But in my experience, if we get a PM to the staff box, saying, i have Sceneaxx and a Seedbox, then more often than not, they will get a trial at the uploader class just to see how they do. And more often than not, they are useless im afraid lol

Yeah thanks