Status of BitMeTV.Org

[Tokeman]

I don't use the site daily, so I cant speak to activity on new releases too much, but when I do grab a new show, its usually seeded back within a day or two, and I don't jump on the stuff right away either.
I jumped on an old show pack added early 2009 to the site, and in the past 8 days, i've uploaded 3GB back from it. I'd say the activity is fine from my point of view.

Hard to seed? I don't think so. Does it take longer then a few days sometimes on old stuff? Well yea, you only upload when people decide they want that old show. Thats just how it goes on sites like this, it takes time, but its not hard in any way shape or form to just let something seed.

Edit: to the comment below. I'm a home connection user. Never donated, never had a seedbox. My ratio is very healthy at bitmetv.

[Rart]

Good point made bro, isnt there anything that these hard to seed on trackers could do make it otherwise?

EDIT: If there is then why dont they?

Of course there are. Expand the userbase, relax ratio requirements, introduce a bonus system, implement something similar to BCG's SP system or What.CD's requirements, are some of many things they could do to spurn activity.

But will they? Of course not. Plenty of people have posted on the forums complaining of how hard it is to seed there, but the staff have been staunch on the fact that their ratio system is working as intended.

It's simple cause and effect: if it's hard to seed there, people will attempt to find ways to seed. They'll either do one of two things - get a seedbox or donate. And as more people get seedboxes, it'll be even harder to seed, resulting in even more people donating. It's a great way to sustain a steady flow of cash, and it's a vicious cycle that'll never really solve itself without action on the staff's part.

And in addition, the notorious level of difficulty of seeding at BMTV and the extremely high ratio of seedbox users promotes a perceived sense of elitism ever so pervasive in the minds of people like the OP, resulting in less people leaving to far superior sites like TVT.

It's a win-win situation from BMTV, so why would they change it?

[whatcdfan]

The only wrong with that theory is that BitMeTV has a Donate for Ratio policy....

https://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...=1#post3548716

[IdolEyes787]

Good point made bro, isnt there anything that these hard to seed on trackers could do make it otherwise?

EDIT: If there is then why dont they?

Of course there are. Expand the userbase, relax ratio requirements, introduce a bonus system, implement something similar to BCG's SP system or What.CD's requirements, are some of many things they could do to spurn activity.

But will they? Of course not. Plenty of people have posted on the forums complaining of how hard it is to seed there, but the staff have been staunch on the fact that their ratio system is working as intended.

It's simple cause and effect: if it's hard to seed there, people will attempt to find ways to seed. They'll either do one of two things - get a seedbox or donate. And as more people get seedboxes, it'll be even harder to seed, resulting in even more people donating. It's a great way to sustain a steady flow of cash, and it's a vicious cycle that'll never really solve itself without action on the staff's part.

And in addition, the notorious level of difficulty of seeding at BMTV and the extremely high ratio of seedbox users promotes a perceived sense of elitism ever so pervasive in the minds of people like the OP, resulting in less people leaving to far superior sites like TVT.

It's a win-win situation from BMTV, so why would they change it? See post #7 which is also better than trance.

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[whatcdfan]

Of course there are. Expand the userbase, relax ratio requirements, introduce a bonus system, implement something similar to BCG's SP system or What.CD's requirements, are some of many things they could do to spurn activity.

But will they? Of course not. Plenty of people have posted on the forums complaining of how hard it is to seed there, but the staff have been staunch on the fact that their ratio system is working as intended.

It's simple cause and effect: if it's hard to seed there, people will attempt to find ways to seed. They'll either do one of two things - get a seedbox or donate. And as more people get seedboxes, it'll be even harder to seed, resulting in even more people donating. It's a great way to sustain a steady flow of cash, and it's a vicious cycle that'll never really solve itself without action on the staff's part.

And in addition, the notorious level of difficulty of seeding at BMTV and the extremely high ratio of seedbox users promotes a perceived sense of elitism ever so pervasive in the minds of people like the OP, resulting in less people leaving to far superior sites like TVT.

It's a win-win situation from BMTV, so why would they change it?

Pressing "Thank you" button

[kukushka]

BitMeTV's greatest strength has become its greatest weakness. The site is rather hard to seed back older content for home users. This meant there was a huge incentive for home users to seed torrents for a long time (or forever), giving the site great retention on rare content. Unfortunately, with the recent rise in cheap seedboxes and ratioless trackers, many people who would normally seed for a long time have stopped doing so, since they can either buy a cheap seedbox for a month a buffer a few hundred GB for a month then leech for a long time, or they can just download most stuff from a ratioless tracker and not worry about having to seed much if anything back. The sharp rise in popularity and membership of BTN is a testament to this. The site is not even a year old and has already nearly 18k members.

both btn & bitmetv ratio systems are retarded, btn is better for fresh shit, bmtv - for older, good ratio system should combine their advantages and be easy for new stuff while encouraging seeding of the older content /and making it relatively easily availible to leech for those who keep it seeded/. i consider it as one of the plagues of private bt trackers that all kind of "credits" on new stuff is almost everywhere considered equal to "credits" on older/rarer things

[Rart]

(@Idol) Sorry I've pretty much stopped listening to anything Canadians have to say. I think it's healthier for me that way.

And I tend to get distracted a lot mid post. And do other shit without coming back to read the thread. And I'm just slow. Don't make fun of me. I'm also glad I missed that post, as that video was utter shite. As to be expected.

Edit: to the comment below. I'm a home connection user. Never donated, never had a seedbox. My ratio is very healthy at bitmetv.

It's not to say it's impossible, but if you're maintaining a healthy ratio and are downloading all the files you actually want on a home connection, you're in a vast minority. That's not to say one has to "cherry pick" the files they download just to maintain a ratio, as you mentioned you have downloaded some packs and started seeding them back just fine. However, my guess is that you're not seeding them at even close to the speeds you would get at other, easier to seed trackers. When you have to carefully and meticulously, even severely limit the files you want to download in order to maintain that hard earned ratio, it really takes the enjoyment out of actually consuming the content you just downloaded. I also wouldn't really consider any recent content to be a good measure of the ability to maintain a ratio, as that kind of is contrary to the point of using such a niche tracker in the first place.

[Tokeman]

If you give bonus points or ease ratio requirements on older stuff, there would be less seeders, since the people on the older stuff would not have any incentive to keep seeding (IE reaching 1/1). This would mean less older content available and at less speeds as well IMO. Of course that isn't always the case, but thats what I would see happening if they changed their system. As I said earlier, the system is not flawed, people just want everything right away, and on older stuff, that just doesn't happen when seeding back. It takes time, get used it it, or move onto another site, you will not be missed.

The old pack I downloaded came in at full speed, maxing out my downstream, and I'm quite content with the 3+GB that I have uploaded in the past few days. Quite good on a pack almost 2 years old.

Almost all the stuff I grab is older as well.

Edit: Ok, I do get that I am in the minority, as I do not use bitmetv daily and download masses of stuff. But IMO bitmetv is about finding those shows you can't find elsewhere, and really, how many of those packs do you need to download every week? Maybe thats why I do not have a hard time, I only download what I'm ready to watch, I don't download just to download or to amass a huge TV collection for the future.

[kukushka]

If you give bonus points or ease ratio requirements on older stuff, there would be less seeders, since the people on the older stuff would not have any incentive to keep seeding (IE reaching 1/1). This would mean less older content available and at less speeds as well IMO. Of course that isn't always the case, but thats what I would see happening if they changed their system. As I said earlier, the system is not flawed, people just want everything right away, and on older stuff, that just doesn't happen when seeding back. It takes time, get used it it, or move onto another site, you will not be missed.

The old pack I downloaded came in at full speed, maxing out my downstream, and I'm quite content with the 3+GB that I have uploaded in the past few days. Quite good on a pack almost 2 years old.

Almost all the stuff I grab is older as well.

Edit: Ok, I do get that I am in the minority, as I do not use bitmetv daily and download masses of stuff. But IMO bitmetv is about finding those shows you can't find elsewhere, and really, how many of those packs do you need to download every week? Maybe thats why I do not have a hard time, I only download what I'm ready to watch, I don't download just to download or to amass a huge TV collection for the future.

you don't get it. i'm not saying that ratio system should receive another bonuses, it will just ruin ratio economy. but if some tracker will do let's say 2x upload for original uploader, .1 download / .1 upload for the first week of the torrent life and then increasing to 1/1 maybe step by step for all other guys, it will definitely benefit long term seeders and will hit at seedboxers with their buffer to the max and then hit'n'run for life philosophy.... ....and promote uploaders too. if there will be to few seedboxes that it'll start to hurt initial swarm speed, those .1 factors can always be regulated one way or another. why the hell the only tracker that i know that gives bonuses for uploaders is a rutracker (where those bonuses aren't needed that much anyway) what i proposed is quite simple and i'm sure there are more optimal ways of doing it but still...

bmtv system was less flawed until freeleech opportunities started to appear, but it's a new world of some kind and either way old sites will modify themselves or they'll go to stagnation in the best case

[stoi]

I am not a member of BitmeTV but surely its.

A: The uploaders can only upload shows that are not already on the tracker, as its a few years old and they have packs, the chances of finding anything is slim to none that they dont have.

B: Most members dont want to upload, shame but true.

C: They have basically been closed for ages (and are specialized), yes a few invites giving out here and there, but the memberbase has everything they could want that is already on the tracker, so they dont bother downloading as much from it anymore, especially old shows.

D: there are not millions of users that use private trackers, its probably a hard core of 20,000 (and thats being generous) and these are usually in at least another 10 trackers, and probably 2-3 accounts on most of the big ones, so they use other sites/dont use others etc etc

Obviously i am taking my experience with BCG into this, but we have 45,000 members, only about 12,000 unique peers, but 150,000 seeders and only about 2,000 leechers, its just getting a lot harder (and that is with our SP system) to get members that A: download, and B: stay for awhile and keep downloading, and we have been open a hell of a lot recently, but its the same protagonists that usually get in. I just think we are very similar apart from us being open and having a system in place to help older torrents (and newer ones as well).