Status of BitMeTV.Org

[Rart]

Edit: Ok, I do get that I am in the minority, as I do not use bitmetv daily and download masses of stuff. But IMO bitmetv is about finding those shows you can't find elsewhere, and really, how many of those packs do you need to download every week? Maybe thats why I do not have a hard time, I only download what I'm ready to watch, I don't download just to download or to amass a huge TV collection for the future.

By packs I was referencing your post, not my own downloading habits. I'm not sure if you meant packs as in the conventional sense of "packs" like on 0day sites, or packs as in TV seasons, but in my experience, when downloading seasons of TV shows (what is that, ~6-8 gigs give or take), it takes me weeks and weeks of purely seeding BMTV torrents to even have a chance of seeding it back, and even then it's not guaranteed. And these are on more recent, modern TV shows, imagine how hard it would be on older, more obscure shows? Maybe you're getting lucky with your show selection and how much interest they garner at BMTV, but given the general sense of the FST and BMTV forums, I would assume that your seeding success is a definite minority.

And at that point, it really isn't even fun anymore. When you're spending more time worrying about whether you can "afford" to download a season (and no, I don't mean constantly downloading packs, I mean downloading a season of a TV show once every few weeks) than actually viewing the content you download, what's the point?

While introducing things such as seedpoints certainly do raise concerns of torrent longevity, ultimately the biggest factor in torrent longevity is simply activity. If more people are willing to jump on to a torrent because it won't as drastically impact their ratio, it'll tend to outnumber the losses you'd get from those who don't feel the need to seed the file anymore. The perfect example of this is TVT: while there are absolutely no seeding length requirements and you can hit n run as much as you like without repercussions, I consistently see 5-6 times as many seeders on obscure season packs than on BMTV, not to mention that simply put a lot of the time those season packs are dead and abandoned on BMTV. Why is retention on TVT better, even though it has absolutely no rules on hitnrunning? It's because the sheer amount of peer activity resulting from an easy to seed environment (helped by things such as 1.5x upload bonus for seeders) far overcompensates for the amount of people that drop off a torrent because they have no motivation to continue seeding it.

[Six66Mike]

There's a lot of things I find wrong with BMTV these days after a long time of being the best site in my books. Here's some:

- The site is stagnant, nothing happens. New features, new code, new anything is non-existent. It's the same boring forum contest every few months and nothing else. The owners and developers show absolutely no interest in keeping the site relevant or fresh. And no, I don't consider "Previews" a new feature... it's just a bloody forum with YouTube links, woopty doo.

- Seeding is not hard, and it never was. From a 1mbit upload in Australia I was more than capable of getting a 1TB buffer, so all the nonsense about how hard it is to keep a ratio there is just that, nonsense.

- There's never been very good quality control, there's a lot of dupe uploads and a lot of bad rips that don't get replaced or removed.

- Given the age and size of the site the current userclass system is dated and obsolete. They need to revamp the system entirely or introduce new userclasses.

- They can't even give you a snatch list in your profile. The code/site keeps track of all uploads and downloads, surely it's not hard to insert a link listing them all.

- The site still falls over and crawls during prime time season when releases are at their highest point.

- The Top 10 hasn't worked for as long as I can remember, going on 3 years.

The only thing they seem do is keep the site online and manage the client whitelist, not much else appears to be happening. If they don't change it, BTN will esily take over very soon and they are well on their way to doing so now. I give it 2-3 more months and BTN will be the new king of TV trackers.

[Lucifer9999]

it is a very good site, but the competition with tvt.ro, btn and tvt.com is very tough....

[IdolEyes787]

There s more in your post that I disagree with but those being more your opinion I won't comment on ,however......

- Seeding is not hard, and it never was. From a 1mbit upload in Australia I was more than capable of getting a 1TB buffer, so all the nonsense about how hard it is to keep a ratio there is just that, nonsense.

There must be two sites named BitMeTV then.

If they don't change it, BTN will esily take over very soon and they are well on their way to doing so now. I give it 2-3 more months and BTN will be the new king of TV trackers.

Besides the fact that in a system that is simply about whether you can download basically the exact same files from one place or another it's silly to want to call any "the king" if you choose to do so at least caveat it with "for those caring about userclasses or "walls' or "stamps" or " pointlessly pretty pictures" or their "pecking order" in the bt world" .Otherwise if you just want to find which TV shows you wish to view and watch them with a minimum of fuss or worry then , as Rart said , TVT is clearly just as good.

Btw I'm an extremely competitive person I just don't see the point in competing over things that in effect serve the same purpose.

[EyeCandy]

- The site is stagnant, nothing happens. New features, new code, new anything is non-existent. It's the same boring forum contest every few months and nothing else. The owners and developers show absolutely no interest in keeping the site relevant or fresh. And no, I don't consider "Previews" a new feature... it's just a bloody forum with YouTube links, woopty doo.

This is probably the biggest thing that I agree with you on. They need to change/maintain with the times. I mean even torrentleech has done a major overhaul. Nothing has changed on that site in the past 5+ five years, to keep it fresh or renovating. One way I've noticed the user base has gone downhill, when almost no one competed in the Christmas banner competition, unlike two years ago; when they had to expand the time frame, this time around.

They'll be like myspace, not make any changes and let the next biggest thing (facebook/BTN/TVT) take over, and when they try to make changes. It'll be too late...

- Seeding is not hard, and it never was. From a 1mbit upload in Australia I was more than capable of getting a 1TB buffer, so all the nonsense about how hard it is to keep a ratio there is just that, nonsense.

Bzzzzzzzz...Wrong

- Given the age and size of the site the current userclass system is dated and obsolete. They need to revamp the system entirely or introduce new userclasses.

Not something I particularly care about, I mean shit on BCG, everyone is pretty much a fuckin user or a piece of shit. They did away with Power User, etc.

- The Top 10 hasn't worked for as long as I can remember, going on 3 years.

Which to me shows they don't maintain their code, even with all the money they make being a donate for ratio site...

[Rart]

- Seeding is not hard, and it never was. From a 1mbit upload in Australia I was more than capable of getting a 1TB buffer, so all the nonsense about how hard it is to keep a ratio there is just that, nonsense.

As Idol said, not sure which BMTV you're talking about...

The only thing they seem do is keep the site online and manage the client whitelist, not much else appears to be happening. If they don't change it, BTN will esily take over very soon and they are well on their way to doing so now. I give it 2-3 more months and BTN will be the new king of TV trackers.

They'll be like myspace, not make any changes and let the next biggest thing (facebook/BTN/TVT) take over, and when they try to make changes. It'll be too late...

I've only been actively using private torrents for around a ~year and a half so I won't pretend to know what it was like before then, but at least from what I've seen, BMTV isn't and never has been any sort of "king" at all. When TVT surpasses BMTV is every objective manner you could possibly think of (peers, retention, selection of shows), the only thing that BMTV has over sites like TVT is the sheer amount of elitism surrounding the site that seems to give it some perceived sense of superiority over other torrent sites. Unfortunately, TVT isn't rare or elite, so it clearly isn't as good as BMTV, at least in the eyes of the average torrenter.

[ca_aok]

We all know of BitMeTV, as one of the elite sites.

Oh shit... and my class is "Elite" there, meaning I'm the Elite of the Elite. Fucking bow down to me now.



Seriously though, this entire thread is useless. If you want to inspire change, man up and post something in their forums instead of here behind a pseudonym.

[EyeCandy]

Seriously though, this entire thread is useless. If you want to inspire change, man up and post something in their forums instead of here behind a pseudonym.

Yea, BitMeTV is one of those ban-happy, kick from IRC for idling too long, take all of your invites, change your title cause I didn't like what you said in IRC...Hence their holier than though, elite attitutde...

[stoi]

Not something I particularly care about, I mean shit on BCG, everyone is pretty much a fuckin user or a piece of shit. They did away with Power User, etc.

Why is a user a piece of shit?

strange comment.

and why is a Power user so much better than a user?

[EyeCandy]

Not something I particularly care about, I mean shit on BCG, everyone is pretty much a fuckin user or a piece of shit. They did away with Power User, etc.

Why is a user a piece of shit?

strange comment.

and why is a Power user so much better than a user?

I said user OR a piece of shit...

And if you're kitty litter, you have a piece of shit icon, a pile of dung.....

And the way you have your site, but not so much power user isn't better...

But Power Users have that since of pride, that they maintain their ratio above and beyond 1:1, they have access to certain parts of forums, like VIP, talking about other trackers, giveaway to other site invites....but your site isnt ran like that