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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDOSE View Post
    /facepalm... noobs these days
    /facepalm
    what passes for comprehension these days
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    facepalm... noobs these days
    go pay the 11$ USD for matrix trust me its worth it.
    yep. it's painful to look in the mirror and acknowledge the sad truth.

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    Another thing to consider is that NZB index sites like Matrix and Newzbin could be construed as being inherently illegal, since they "induce" infringement by suggesting/publicising copyrighted material. Search engines like Binsearch and Mysterbin are on a much more solid legal footing, since they only return what a person specifically asks for. Consider that the top-tier indexers Binnews, Newzbin(1) and now NZBsRus have all folded under the weight of legal assaults, while search engines have (so far) stayed out of the crosshairs. There should be little doubt that NZBmatrix will probably be next on the hit list.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandman_1 View Post
    I am in agreement with Hypatia here. Mysterbin has made life definitely easier.
    My sentiments exactly. It's always nice to have someone else fight my battles for me.

    I've not changed my mind since my first impression of Mysterbin, over a year ago, when I said this:

    "This is the most innovative new feature on a search engine that I've seen in a very long time, maybe the all-time best-ever feature."

    Code:
    http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/423542-New-Usenet-indexer-MysterBin-let-you-search-inside-RAR-archives
    https://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...e-RAR-archives

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    I'll check out mysterbin

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    Consider that the top-tier indexers Binnews, Newzbin(1) and now NZBsRus have all folded under the weight of legal assaults, while search engines have (so far) stayed out of the crosshairs. There should be little doubt that NZBmatrix will probably be next on the hit list
    I think it's just a question of visibility. You don't even have to have the law on your side to stop these sites. Threaten and most will fold. If that doesn't work, cut off their funding, the way wikileaks got cut off. The law doesn't really matter. Often just the threat of trouble is enough to make people shut-down.

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    There we have the question. Will FST fold as here does the same as the other indexing sites. No difference at all. RIP FST next somewhere down the line considering to here caters for more than just usenet in many ways. Just a question as people ponder whats in life and usenet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B18C5 View Post
    Consider that the top-tier indexers Binnews, Newzbin(1) and now NZBsRus have all folded under the weight of legal assaults, while search engines have (so far) stayed out of the crosshairs. There should be little doubt that NZBmatrix will probably be next on the hit list
    I think it's just a question of visibility. You don't even have to have the law on your side to stop these sites. Threaten and most will fold. If that doesn't work, cut off their funding, the way wikileaks got cut off. The law doesn't really matter. Often just the threat of trouble is enough to make people shut-down.
    Very true, most small non-commercial sites simply don't have the money to fight the legal system, and end up throwing in the towel very quickly. It's when they do fight --and win-- that the copyright cartel then resort to threatening payment providers. AllofMP3 was a good example of that (as well as involving the US government to pressure the Russian government to change its laws).

    Then there are the torrent site admins of Oink and Filesoup that had to endure a criminal trial, and even after being found not-guilty and walking away free, were so beaten down, both emotionally and financially, that they were in no mood to re-open the site. So indeed the law really doesn't matter as far as the MAFIAA is concerned; they win even when the law is against them.

    Quote Originally Posted by k2bug View Post
    There we have the question. Will FST fold as here does the same as the other indexing sites. No difference at all. RIP FST next somewhere down the line considering to here caters for more than just usenet in many ways. Just a question as people ponder whats in life and usenet.
    With the ongoing attacks against NZB sites, I'm kind of surprised that it has already lasted this long. I'd personally feel better if the NZB section was on a different host and a different domain, so taking down one would not automatically take down the other.

    That's one of the biggest losses when the copyright cops strike: the entire discussion community dies along with the more controversial parts of the site, even though the forum is not itself infringing copyright. The sad part is that it seems very few site admins -- The Pirate Bay being the notable exception -- plan for (or even acknowledge) the inevitability that the site will some day come under attack, most living under the fallacy that "linking is perfectly legal" -- and therefore they have nothing to worry about.
    Last edited by zot; 11-02-2011 at 03:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zot View Post
    the entire discussion community dies along with the more controversial parts of the site, even though the forum is not itself infringing copyright
    I just got an image in my head where I'm actively posting and talking with some kids in the rate that ass thread of ==insert bt site here==. Most frightening notion I've experienced in awhile, and a day or two too late
    Last edited by mjmacky; 11-02-2011 at 04:38 AM. Reason: can't hear images in my brain
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2bug View Post
    There we have the question. Will FST fold as here does the same as the other indexing sites. No difference at all. RIP FST next somewhere down the line considering to here caters for more than just usenet in many ways. Just a question as people ponder whats in life and usenet.
    Worry not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by k2bug View Post
    There we have the question. Will FST fold as here does the same as the other indexing sites. No difference at all. RIP FST next somewhere down the line considering to here caters for more than just usenet in many ways. Just a question as people ponder whats in life and usenet.
    Worry not.
    The reply will be made with machine guns?
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