Pregnancy Thru Assault

[Wizard_Mon1]

in further responce females are animals to and there natural responce to infanticide is tio try and stop it.

for a male a pregnancy cost relively little in terms of effort but for a female it costs a lot of time and effort.

female chimp increase the uncertainty about paternaty so as to ward of infanticide attempts

[Wizard_Mon1]

Volker Sommer (my lecturer) whose own work on infanticide in hanuman langurs states that that there is a tendancy to to commit what is aclled naturalistic fallacy, to assume that what we see in nature is somehow, right, just, enevitable.

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Ok sorry to have run off, unitentional

Thanks to all who posted sensibly and did'nt flame, I know this is a very sensitive subject but I was genuanly interested in your opinions on this matter.

2 points I picked up on from the females point of views

1= Gems.....You said (in the soap) about Kat and Zoe, Kat was 14 and did'nt know she was pregnant til too late, plus she did'nt have a husband.

2= Andie......You make a very valid point, I was't so much asking about the females view as we all know that this is the most horrific violation there is, no doubt about that in my mind and just the thought of such an act infuriates me.
And I understand a mother has an instant attachment to a child even when just maybe a week into the pregnancy, but what I don't understand is how she could consider keeping part of a human who so violently violated her body and mind within her, surely she would want all parts of the man out of her life, and a very good point was made by the husband (in the soap), he said "What if it looks like him?, what if it turns out like him?.....He has a mother and do you think she knew her son would be like this?"
Also you have to look at it from the males point of view, we have feelings too, and I think I would be mortified beyond belief at the atrocity, but then for my g/f/wife to want to keep it would destroy me completely, it's not being selfish but reverse the situation and look at it from a mans point of view, to have to either leave the one you love of for the rest of your life to look at and be expected to love another mans (a man who hurt your loved one) child..........every day, for the rest......of your life, knowing full well this child is no part of you!

And before you all jump on me about people going into relationships with other peoples kids, thats a descision you make before you start, not years down the line.

Jonno B)

[Samurai]

Originally posted by bujub22+11 January 2004 - 23:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bujub22 @ 11 January 2004 - 23:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Samurai@11 January 2004 - 20:41
Why is it the majority of women want to keep said child after what has happened? Technically it isn&#39;t even aware of what is going on, it is an egg surrounded by jelly.

so then she need to have a abortion and why?? keep the baby [/b][/quote]
Care to put that into understandable English?

Tell you what, let me knock up any one of your girlfriends/wives and see if you&#39;ll raise the child as your own. You&#39;re all so happy about allowing this to happen, we&#39;ll both get what we want wont we?&#33;

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@12 January 2004 - 01:53
Volker Sommer (my lecturer) whose own work on infanticide in hanuman langurs states that that there is a tendancy to to commit what is aclled naturalistic fallacy, to assume that what we see in nature is somehow, right, just, enevitable.

Is your keyboard possessed or are you just shitfaced?

[Busyman]

Originally posted by hobbes+12 January 2004 - 01:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 12 January 2004 - 01:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wizard_Mon1@12 January 2004 - 01:53
Volker Sommer (my lecturer) whose own work on infanticide in hanuman langurs states that that there is a tendancy to to commit what is aclled naturalistic fallacy, to assume that what we see in nature is somehow, right, just, enevitable.

Is your keyboard possessed or are you just shitfaced? [/b][/quote]
Now THAT was hard to "comprehend".

[Lilmiss]

I was raped when I was 17yr old, then became pregnant to this man.
Luckily for me, I miscarried before I had to make any decisions, but I understand how hard it is to terminate something that is part of you.

These women who are put in in that horrible situation, really have to make their own minds up, as it will play on them forever.

I dont watch Eastenders, but have heard the storylines for this particular drama.
My heart bleeds for anyone that is forced to decide something so important.

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by hobbes+12 January 2004 - 00:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 12 January 2004 - 00:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wizard_Mon1@12 January 2004 - 01:53
Volker Sommer (my lecturer) whose own work on infanticide in hanuman langurs states that that there is a tendancy to to commit what is aclled naturalistic fallacy, to assume that what we see in nature is somehow, right, just, enevitable.

Is your keyboard possessed or are you just shitfaced? [/b][/quote]

i blame possession

[Wizard_Mon1]

a tendancy in other primatologists that is

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Sorry lilmiss, I did&#39;nt really want you to see this but I had to ask cos it was eating me up

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((lilmiss)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Jonno B)