Pregnancy Thru Assault

[Busyman]

Originally posted by JONNO_CELEBS@12 January 2004 - 05:30
But (and I could be wrong here) women cannot use "The Pill" after a certain age, this I say due to a friend of mine having a hystorectomy because the doc told her she is now past the safe age to use the product, she's 31

And please lets not bring religion into this

Jonno B)

1. Yes, you are wrong. There is no age restriction. In the US it is called Plan B. Anyway come on man 31 years old? If she can't use it because of her age who could, teenagers and 20 somethings. That's a very small demographic.

2. How could religion not be part of it? Alot of women don't get abortions due to there religious beliefs.

[JONNO_CELEBS]

I'm not talking about restrictions, I'm talking about health risks, I think I'll have to find this out

And this thread was never about abortion really, I understand and agree with what you said but this thread is about a husband and wife in a predicament owing to Sexual Assault and pregnancy, that has nothing to do with religion, I'm talking about morals

I just don't want this turned into a debate and ultimately a flame about religion, I have no time for religion and no interest.

Thanks for the input tho

@Ukdude........Thats a very strong standpoint and I applaud you for it

Jonno B)

[james_bond_rulez]

unwilling as i'll ever be i'll let my wife have the child, no doubt about it. I will be upset at first but a family is a family nobody can take away that

u'll have a child that is not ur own calling u daddy and just watch the lil bastard grow into a healthy normal human being, send him/her to college to have a good education and have a wonderful life

this is what i'll do if i were in the spotlight.

and this is what i'll do in real life stiuation.

hobbes i am very surprised at u. I was hoping u could be at least a little bit more understanding but seeing u not any different than a murderer. Abortion is NOT an option AT ALL. What's ur reason to take a life? besides having an aborsion will damage the body so the next baby ur wife is carrying will have a greater chance of miscarriage or birth defects.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by JONNO_CELEBS@12 January 2004 - 05:43
I'm not talking about restrictions, I'm talking about health risks, I think I'll have to find this out

And this thread was never about abortion really, I understand and agree with what you said but this thread is about a husband and wife in a predicament owing to Sexual Assault and pregnancy, that has nothing to do with religion, I'm talking about morals

I just don't want this turned into a debate and ultimately a flame about religion, I have no time for religion and no interest.

Thanks for the input tho

@Ukdude........Thats a very strong standpoint and I applaud you for it

Jonno B)

Ok then there are no "health risks" after a certain age. There may have been other factors as to why she couldn't use MAP. As a matter of fact anyone that can take nornal birth control can take this and then some. Birth control pills need a prescription here but Plan B will not.

No this thread is not "about" abortion but it is very much an option whether exercised or not.
I brought it up because, with the advent of this pill, it would somewhat change the circumstances of your original post.

In regards to religion I don't how anyone can flame on this subject.
Religion and morals go hand in hand most of the time.

[Pitbul]

i'd tell my wife to put it up for adoption if not i'd prolly leave. the mear fact of that child being the outcome of rape adds alot of tension, tension that i sadly would try to aviod at all cost not only that but some else said that this child would be a reminder of that rape that, that anger inside the husbands head grew from, i do not believe in abortion i think every life is to be given a chance but i could not raise it, also i seriously do not know why a women would want to keep this child especially from what the sources of it was from, an act of Rape. but if my wife did truly want an abortion then who am i to say other wise it was not me who was raped and it is not my body.

[cowswithguns]

Personally, I could think of nothing worse than carrying the baby of a rapist. That I had been assaulted would be hard enough to deal with without having a constant reminder of the trauma. This would not be the way I would like to bring a child into the world.

I am not familiar with this program so I would have to presume that the woman has already chosen to keep the baby against her husbands wishes.

This being the case, although she has every right to make this decision, I can also see the viewpoint of the father. IMO unless the relationship was rock solid it would appear doomed.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by cowswithguns@12 January 2004 - 12:25
Personally, I could think of nothing worse than carrying the baby of a rapist. That I had been assaulted would be hard enough to deal with without having a constant reminder of the trauma. This would not be the way I would like to bring a child into the world.

I was a bit surprised that this was not the opinion of all the women here.

I think the problem I had with the topic was that I thought it was a "real" situation, now I realize it is a plot in a "soap", a scenario dreamed up by some writers.

It has been my experience that rape is one of the most emotionally devasating experiences a woman could endure. The desire of this woman to have the baby just seems to go against everything I have observed. Most women seem to retch at the thought of a rapists seed growing inside them.

I think this a writers creation and would not occur in real life. What do you ladies think? Could you bear this thought? Could you love this child? Should your husband have to support it?

In a real life scenario, the woman would have been taken to the hospital immediately and given the pill to prevent a pregnacy from occuring. Could you at this time have the emotional control to tell them "no", I will let nature take its course?


As for being called a killer, I stated that assuming the pregnancy had already occured, I would favor the options of abortion vs adoption. I personally, would favor adoption, but I would let the woman decide. I would not raise the child.

My discussion about animals was to indicate that nature had a way of dealing with this situation.


PS: Why could UKman not post directly?

edit: fixed some typos for no reason.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by hobbes@12 January 2004 - 22:26
It has been my experience that rape is one of the most emotionally devasating experiences a woman can endure. The desire of this woman to have the baby just seems to go against everything I have observed. Most women seem to wretch at the thought of a rapists seed growing inside them.

In a real life scenario, the woman would have been taken to the hospital immediately and given the pill to prevent a pregnacy from occuring. Could you at this time have the emotional control to tell them "no", I will let nature take its course?

My sentiments exactly!!!


edit: UKMan was probably busy yelling on a megaphone outside about his brother getting more chocalate cake than he did.

[Gemby!]

@ sheila - i agree with what you have been sayign about putting a child before that of a husband

- i personally think that men in this thread should stop talking about the husband providing for the family - maybe the mother would do it ......

the husband should consider what the wife would be going through - many of you have been saying that you would make the mother choose between you or the child - what gives you the right to make her choose ?


and just because the woman didnt take the morning after pill doesnt mean she wanted to have the baby - im sure she didnt have rape me tatooed across her face that day either .....

[Busyman]

Originally posted by gemby!@12 January 2004 - 23:10
@ sheila - i agree with what you have been sayign about putting a child before that of a husband

- i personally think that men in this thread should stop talking about the husband providing for the family - maybe the mother would do it ......

the husband should consider what the wife would be going through - many of you have been saying that you would make the mother choose between you or the child - what gives you the right to make her choose ?


and just because the woman didnt take the morning after pill doesnt mean she wanted to have the baby - im sure she didnt have rape me tatooed across her face that day either .....

1. The costs to the wife ultimately translate to the husband.

2. The right to make her choose is called divorce.

3. If MAP is readily available (and it is especially in rape cases) then she sure "didn't mind" getting pregnant (to put mildly).