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    Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@20 April 2004 - 04:29
    No kidding I'd be here all night if I wanted to list all liberal media sources.

    Thank goodness we at least have FOX News.

    And of course Rush Limbaugh
    I am inclined to the view that the right of the US political spectrum is not well served by the media.

    If there was a broad range of such outlets, tacky vehicles like Fox would get short shrift by serious consumers of News; such as J2K4. I have tried to watch it several times but (notwithstanding its political bias which actually tickles me) I find it too short and too bitty in its coverage of issues.

    As I understand it, (and I may be wrong here) although the Republicans are gung ho regarding issues like Israel, the NY liberal intelligensia is often Jewish and Democrat. This would suggest a certain interesting political complexity in the US.
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    Originally posted by Biggles+22 April 2004 - 13:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggles &#064; 22 April 2004 - 13:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-BigBank_Hank@20 April 2004 - 04:29
    No kidding I&#39;d be here all night if I wanted to list all liberal media sources.

    Thank goodness we at least have FOX News.

    And of course Rush Limbaugh
    I am inclined to the view that the right of the US political spectrum is not well served by the media.

    If there was a broad range of such outlets, tacky vehicles like Fox would get short shrift by serious consumers of News; such as J2K4. I have tried to watch it several times but (notwithstanding its political bias which actually tickles me) I find it too short and too bitty in its coverage of issues.

    As I understand it, (and I may be wrong here) although the Republicans are gung ho regarding issues like Israel, the NY liberal intelligensia is often Jewish and Democrat. This would suggest a certain interesting political complexity in the US. [/b][/quote]
    Biggles-

    You have discerned a "range" which is actually two extremes bracketing a rather sparsely populated middle-might be more correctly referred to as a void.

    As I have said many times, I watch FOX due to the unfortunate circumstance of it&#39;s being the only outlet giving anything other than short-shrift to the views of the Right.

    It is no more or less tacky than any other outlet; they all have the same format and putrid graphics that appeal to the attention-span challenged.

    It&#39;s approach is as truncated and lurid as the rest.

    How this is managed (in this glorious age of 24-hour news coverage) is beyond me.

    Nothing can replace the written word, in my view; for the most part, anything on the telly is background noise, and absent 9/11, I probably would never turn the damned thing on at all.

    EDIT: You have also tumbled to the peculiarities of what you refer to as "political complexity"; just so: Irony is truly rife.

    The Right takes care of Israel, while American Jews vote Democrat.

    The Gods must be crazy.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Is it just me or does anyone else hate that damn crawl at the bottom of the screen?

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    Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@23 April 2004 - 00:18
    Is it just me or does anyone else hate that damn crawl at the bottom of the screen?
    Oh yes&#33;

    A fair number of News Channels have so many "bits" on the screen the actual picture size left to watch is a small square in the centre. If I had wanted a 14" TV I would have bought one.

    If you try and read the crawl along the bottom you miss whatever was showing above anyway. I have not yet mastered the lizard like trick of turning my eyeballs in two separate directions.


    Minor rant over.
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    Originally posted by Biggles+22 April 2004 - 18:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggles @ 22 April 2004 - 18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BigBank_Hank@23 April 2004 - 00:18
    Is it just me or does anyone else hate that damn crawl at the bottom of the screen?
    Oh yes&#33;

    A fair number of News Channels have so many "bits" on the screen the actual picture size left to watch is a small square in the centre. If I had wanted a 14" TV I would have bought one.

    If you try and read the crawl along the bottom you miss whatever was showing above anyway. I have not yet mastered the lizard like trick of turning my eyeballs in two separate directions.


    Minor rant over. [/b][/quote]
    Bingo&#33;

    Goes to my point about attention-span; ultimately no one is capable of taking all of the (half-baked) information on-board, anyway.
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    Originally posted by Mad Cat@18 April 2004 - 05:45
    You say America is still in Iraq, do you understand what would happen if they all pulled out?

    Several religious factions are already at eachothers throats, each of them could easily become a new Saddam. If they left Iraq right now, about 100,000 people would be dead in the same day.
    LMFAO&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; now that is just hilarious, lets see, THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF AMERICA (SORRY, I MEANT GEORGE W. BUSH) DIDN&#39;T INVADE IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE, DUMASS&#33;

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    Originally posted by cpt_azad+22 April 2004 - 17:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cpt_azad @ 22 April 2004 - 17:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@18 April 2004 - 05:45
    You say America is still in Iraq, do you understand what would happen if they all pulled out?

    Several religious factions are already at eachothers throats, each of them could easily become a new Saddam. If they left Iraq right now, about 100,000 people would be dead in the same day.
    LMFAO&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; now that is just hilarious, lets see, THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF AMERICA (SORRY, I MEANT GEORGE W. BUSH) DIDN&#39;T INVADE IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE, DUMASS&#33; [/b][/quote]
    Actually Saddam was very good at preventing that happening. For better or worse with his harsh regime he quashed all opposition before it had chance to rise. Iraq may have been under a brutal regime but it was certainly more "stable" than it is as present. We may be replacing one tyrant with several
    Hopefully when power is handed back and actual elections take place (not the installed quango) it might settle down....but i fear it will be a long time before Iraq no longer hears the sound of munitions

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    A letter written in to my local newspaper suggested reinstating Hussein as something of a puppet leader. I&#39;ll have to see if I can dig it up again, it was an interesting take.

    things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
    so, he does
    the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
    and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
    the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
    and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
    the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
    -- WW2 for the l33t

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    Originally posted by MagicNakor@22 April 2004 - 23:54
    A letter written in to my local newspaper suggested reinstating Hussein as something of a puppet leader. I&#39;ll have to see if I can dig it up again, it was an interesting take.

    Please do.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    I hope you enjoy it. I dug through the recycling for half an hour and tripped over my frenzied, stairs-running cat to get it to you.

    Just to date it, this was two weeks after the burnt bodies of four Americans were hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

    Easy solution to mess in Iraq

    Dear Editor,

    &nbsp; The Bush administration is starting to look a bit desperate as it seeks a way out of the mess it created with its invasion and occupation of Iraq.
    &nbsp; The weapons of mass destruction that were supposedly the reason for the war are nowhere to be found, and the Iraqis are acting anything but grateful for their "liberation."
    &nbsp; Fortunately the solution to the whole debacle is within the Americans&#39; grasp.
    &nbsp; All they need do is release Saddam Hussein from custody and put him back in power. Given a second chance, he&#39;ll soon crush the opposition and restore order. He&#39;s got the credentials and the track record for the job, if anybody does.
    &nbsp; It&#39;s true he&#39;s a truly nasty piece of work, but his methods, including mass murder and torture, didn&#39;t stop the United States from supporting him enthusiastically throughout the 1980s, the period of his greatest crimes. It was only when he made the mistake of disobeying the U.S. that he became an enemy.
    &nbsp; No doubt a deal could be worked out. Saddam would be happy to return to power in exchange for an undertaking to follow orders. And the U.S. could withdraw its troops, secure in the knowledge that a reliable tyrant will maintain order and keep the oil flowing.
    things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
    so, he does
    the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
    and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
    the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
    and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
    the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
    -- WW2 for the l33t

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