Saving Private Ryan

[Everose]

I know you do, Scroff. I went and searched for it, and posted it to show you were right.

[ruthie]

If one is not believing in the sytem, one must leave.(Versus believing in the sytem but working to envoke change)

Remember that America was built by those with nothing, coming here for a better life, a chance at freedom.


Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.


Don't be such a materalist, take your beliefs and go.

A coward dies a thousand deaths....

I am sad, while you and Scroff ROFL. I feel that you are lost, and that my beacon to call you ashore has missed the mark.

We are ROFL at your posts Hobbes.... wasn't that your intention?

Look, when I said I would like to move it was mostly an expression of frustration and disgust. You, the bastion of sensitivity, should recognize that. But if my family decided to move I would. Scroff, on the other hand, most likely would not... But I find it interesting that you believe people who don't agree with the system should move... remeniscient of "Love it or leave it" I would say... I suspect that, given that belief, you would have been a Tory during the Revolutionary War...

[hobbes]

We are ROFL at your posts Hobbes.... wasn't that your intention?

Look, when I said I would like to move it was mostly an expression of frustration and disgust. You, the bastion of sensitivity, should recognize that. But if my family decided to move I would. Scroff, on the other hand, most likely would not... But I find it interesting that you believe people who don't agree with the system should move... remeniscient of "Love it or leave it" I would say... I suspect that, given that belief, you would have been a Tory during the Revolutionary War...

See, now that has me really angry.

I NEVER said that.

I said that if you think the system does not work, you should leave. If you think the system does work and you can effect change, then you should stay in pursuit of your ideals.

You are not reading what I am saying.

To say that my contention is "love it or leave it" is about as insulting an accusation as one can give.

Do really believe that is what I think. Has everthing I have posted been lost because you only interpret things as you choose?

Pathetic, disgusting, insulting.

[scroff]

If you had any insight, you might choose a different story
You and Ruthie and your sickening political agenda have turned this neutral person, and voter for Kerry, completely against you.

Thank god for that. Nice edit, btw...

[hobbes]

Thank god for that. Nice edit, btw...

Yes, you have turned the swing voters against you. The only ones you could hope to change. You must be proud of shooting yourself in the foot.

I edit all the time becuase of typo's or to clarify, I have no clue to which you are referring.

[scroff]

See, now that has me really angry.

I NEVER said that.

I said that if you think the system does not work, you should leave. If you think the system does work and you can effect change, then you should stay in pursuit of your ideals.

You are not reading what I am saying.

To say that my contention is "love it or leave it" is about as insulting an accusation that one can give.

Do really believe that is what I think. Has everthing I have posted been lost because you only interpret things as you choose?

Pathetic, disgusting, insulting.

Let's see... you said "If one is not believing in the sytem, one must leave.(Versus believing in the sytem but working to envoke change)"

Yup, that's what I thought... if you don't believe in the system you must leave... whether or not you "work to envoke change". I don't see anywhere in there where it says you can not believe in the system and stay... sounds like "Love it or leave it" to me... must have been a typo, eh? You should have edited it...

btw, I lied when I said you could have the last word...

[scroff]

Yes, you have turned the swing voters against you. The only ones you could hope to change. You must be proud of shooting yourself in the foot.

I edit all the time becuase of typo's or to clarify, I have no clue to which you are referring.

C'mon, Hobbes, you should know that changing the swing voters isn't part of my awful, disgusting agenda... but pissing off people like you is.

[hobbes]

Let's see... you said "If one is not believing in the sytem, one must leave.(Versus believing in the sytem but working to envoke change)"

Yup, that's what I thought... if you don't believe in the system you must leave... whether or not you "work to envoke change". I don't see anywhere in there where it says you can not believe in the system and stay... sounds like "Love it or leave it" to me... must have been a typo, eh? You should have edited it...

btw, I lied when I said you could have the last word...

Well you read as you wish. You are a lost cause.

I try to have a reasonable discussion, you just want to twist words. Your loss, not mine.

You can lie to impress your forum friends, but niether of you actually believes that my philosophy is love it or leave it. That is just your political rhetoric, in your binary world.

[Everose]

C'mon, Hobbes, you should know that changing the swing voters isn't part of my awful, disgusting agenda... but pissing off people like you is.

Re: Marines on the frontlines

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Originally Posted by Everose
To help me understand who your enemy is, Scroff, would you say it is everyone in America who voted for Bush, and possibly all of those who didn't vote? And also, I would like to ask you if you have any aspirations to teaching these Bush voters the error of their ways, or to alienate them even further with your views?
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If you have to ask you must be one

I think the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean InSannity, Michael "Savage", Joe (hey, what's this dead woman doing in my office???) Scarborough, and their millions of listeners have already alienated and divided this country... I could do no better.

The enemy are people who send out emails like this "We will also soon be implementing a more responsive ranking system where your organizational rank will be determined by your participation in our world-wide effort to destroy the left intellectually."

or

"I could not hold back the tears of joy. Hour by hour, we observed a "slam dunk" as the Church of Jesus Christ made the difference in initiating the return of this nation to moral sanity and the Judeo-Christian ethic."

That's but a few examples....

At this point, I'm not trying to do anything with these folks, they are beyond teaching... but those "swing voters" aren't. After a few mopre years of the Moral Majority running the show, I think people will return to a saner viewpoint.



So the swing voter are, or are not part of your agenda, Scroff?

[hobbes]

Re: Marines on the frontlines

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Everose
To help me understand who your enemy is, Scroff, would you say it is everyone in America who voted for Bush, and possibly all of those who didn't vote? And also, I would like to ask you if you have any aspirations to teaching these Bush voters the error of their ways, or to alienate them even further with your views?
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If you have to ask you must be one

I think the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean InSannity, Michael "Savage", Joe (hey, what's this dead woman doing in my office???) Scarborough, and their millions of listeners have already alienated and divided this country... I could do no better.

The enemy are people who send out emails like this "We will also soon be implementing a more responsive ranking system where your organizational rank will be determined by your participation in our world-wide effort to destroy the left intellectually."

or

"I could not hold back the tears of joy. Hour by hour, we observed a "slam dunk" as the Church of Jesus Christ made the difference in initiating the return of this nation to moral sanity and the Judeo-Christian ethic."

That's but a few examples....

At this point, I'm not trying to do anything with these folks, they are beyond teaching... but those "swing voters" aren't. After a few mopre years of the Moral Majority running the show, I think people will return to a saner viewpoint.



So the swing voter are, or are not part of your agenda, Scroff?

Yes, I knew this post was there. This post is exactly why I said what I did.