Hiroshima

[ahctlucabbuS]

Well I refuse to believe it was necessary. Today, knowing the devastating effects and power of the bomb the conflict would surely have played out differently. Not to mention simply using an atomic bomb in a conflict today would get us started on a path of world destruction.

Besides isn't there an old quote saying something along the lines that in war, the winner gets to write the history.

Regardless I guess we all agree to a point, and if you're looking for a reason to join some anti-nuke organisation watch Threads. A very disturbing film.

[Cheese]

They could have set a bomb off in an unpopulated area and said, "Look Japan we have this fecking big bomb, surrender or we start dropping them on your cities."

Might have worked, might not have. We'll never know.

[{I}{K}{E}]

why isnt this posted in the The Drawing Room?

[DanB]

it was mentioned in a thread in the drawing room but the thread got deleted

[Jon L. Obscene]

It has been generally accepted that by stopping the war in August 1945 many more lives were saved than were killed by the two atomic bombs dropped on Japan. Without it the Japanese infrastructure/mentality was such that continuation of the war for a protracted period was inevitable.

In fact many more Japanese civilian lives were probably saved, without even considering the fighting forces on both sides. If the war had continued for months or years, you can imagine the sort of systematic bombing which would have occurred. With the comparatively flimsy nature of Japanese housing, firestorms way in excess of what happened in Dresden and Hamburg would almost certainly have ensued. There is some documentation that this occured even with small-scale bombing raids.

BTW, the first picture is of the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, not Hiroshima.

That actually kinda makes sense, I had never thought of it like that before.
Having said that the people of these places which were "Tested" on have been dying from the blast for over 50 years. I wonder if the deaths since the bomb have evend up the argument?

Enola Gay, you should have stayed at home yesterday
Aha words can't describe the feeling and the way you lied

These games you play, they're gonna end in more than tears someday
Aha Enola Gay, it shouldn't ever have to end this way

It's 8:15, and that's the time that it's always been
We got your message on the radio, conditions normal and you're coming home

Enola Gay, is mother proud of little boy today
Aha this kiss you give, it's never ever gonna fade away

Enola Gay, it shouldn't ever have to end this way
Aha Enola Gay, it shouldn't fade in our dreams away

It's 8:15, and that's the time that it's always been
We got your message on the radio, conditions normal and you're coming home

Enola Gay, is mother proud of little boy today
Aha this kiss you give, it's never ever gonna fade away

So it should'nt have happend, but no one can blame the US as it stands now, otherwise we may as well start bitching about King Edward and his "Prima Nocta" , are the English of today to blame?

Jonno

[Samurai]

It's easy for people to start questioning the 'Why's?' & 'What If's?' now because you're alive and well to question such things.

It could have turned out a lot differently. For example... bomb wasn't dropped, instead Japan dropped one where your grandfather lived and killed him. Now you were never born and can't ask such stupid questions.

[DanB]

Funnily enough I have always believed that Japan were close to giving up anyway and the atomic bombs were dropped just to make sure

[Cheese]

why isnt this posted in the The Drawing Room?

Why are you making off-topic posts in a serious discussion?

@Samurai: Questioning the events of the past is one of the ways that we can avoid mistakes in the future.

[DanB]

It's easy for people to start questioning the 'Why's?' & 'What If's?' now because you're alive and well to question such things.

It could have turned out a lot differently. For example... bomb wasn't dropped, instead Japan dropped one where your grandfather lived and killed him. Now you were never born and can't ask such stupid questions.

So does that mean that History lessons at school should be scrapped? You learn about the past and discuss the why's what if's in that

[Guillaume]

Indeed, are you Santayana at all.

I doubt Cheese had anything to do with the Alamo...