J.f.k Assasination

[j2k4]

Originally posted by JPaul@16 June 2003 - 10:57
I thought it had been established that Lee Harvey Oswald shot J.F.K. Has some doubt now been expressed in relation to this matter.

That was the conclusion of the Warren Commission, yes.

I must note, here, that the Kennedy assassination was the genesis for the modern school of "Conspiracy Theory" thought.

The peculiarities of the incident do lend themselves to conflicting theories; as yet, however, none have proven conclusive.

Note, I said conspiracy theory as opposed to conspiracy.

[TheDave]

Note, I said conspiracy theory as opposed to conspiracy.

what does that mean?

[J'Pol]

It refers to the difference between the actual and the theoretical.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JPaul@16 June 2003 - 10:05
What was the legal status of the Warren Commission.

The Commission was convened by authority of then President Lyndon Johnson and it's conclusions are the de facto official US government explanation.
Many people have made a career of analyzing and debunking the commission's findings and even supporters admit that there are lots of inconsistencies and omissions.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by clocker+16 June 2003 - 17:21--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 16 June 2003 - 17:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@16 June 2003 - 10:05
What was the legal status of the Warren Commission.

The Commission was convened by authority of then President Lyndon Johnson and it&#39;s conclusions are the de facto official US government explanation.
Many people have made a career of analyzing and debunking the commission&#39;s findings and even supporters admit that there are lots of inconsistencies and omissions. [/b][/quote]
In essence, legally LHO assasinated JFK. No-one else was involved and there was no conspiracy.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by JPaul@16 June 2003 - 11:10
It refers to the difference between the actual and the theoretical.

Thank you, JPaul.

The Warren Commission was pretty official and authoritative:


Immediate Release
November 30, 1963
Office of the White House Press Secretary
The Wite House Executive Order No. 11130
Appointing A Commission To Report Upon The Assassination Of President John F. Kennedy

Pursuant to the authority vested in me as President of the United States, I hereby appoint a Commission to ascertain, evaluate and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination. The Commission shall consist of:

The Chief Justice of the United States, Chairman;
Senator Richard B. Russell;
Senator John Sherman Cooper;
Congressman Hale Boggs;
Congressman Gerald R. Ford;
The Honorable Allen W. Dulles;
The Honorable John J. McCloy.

The purposes of the Commission are to examine the evidence developed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and any additional evidence that may hereafter come to light or be uncovered by federal or state authorities; to make such further investigation as the Commission finds desirable; to evaluate all the facts and circumstances surrounding such assassination, including the subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination, and to report to me its findings and conclusions.

The Commission is empowered to prescribe its own procedures and to employ such assistants as it deems necessary.
Necessary expenses of the Commission may be paid from the "Emergency Fund for the President". All Executive departments and agencies are directed to furnish the Commission with such facilities, services and cooperation as it may request from time to time.

LYNDON B. JOHNSON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
November 29, 1963




This is textbook conspiracy theorist stuff.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by j2k4+16 June 2003 - 17:25--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 &#064; 16 June 2003 - 17:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@16 June 2003 - 11:10
It refers to the difference between the actual and the theoretical.

Thank you, JPaul.

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I hope you don&#39;t mind.The question appeared facetious so I thought a level headed individual like myself was best answering it.

Save the thread falling into an ever decreasing spiral of nonsensical demands for insincere expressions of contrition.

[J'Pol]

I&#39;ve always felt, as have others in my position, that every person researching a conspiracy theory is someone kept out of harms way.

Heaven forbid they should ever expend that amount of energy on investigating what is actually going on.

That&#39;s probably why they are started.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by JPaul@16 June 2003 - 11:40
I&#39;ve always felt, as have others in my position, that every person researching a conspiracy theory is someone kept out of harms way.

Heaven forbid they should ever expend that amount of energy on investigating what is actually going on.

That&#39;s probably why they are started.

Exactly so, JPaul, although I must say, I don&#39;t think anyone has ever actually occupied your "precise" position.

[angellynn26]

To accept that LHO acted alone to assassinate JFK out of some personal vendetta of his own making is absolutely absurd. If any of you actually believe that, I&#39;ve got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya&#33; There were three shots fired, and it HAS been proven that all three could NOT have come from the book depository window that LHO was at. As for the stupid Warren Commission statement, look who signed it. It has been openly speculated that LBJ, the CIA, and the Secret Service were all involved in JFK&#39;s assassination. If there is even a scrap of truth to that, then the statement from the commission, signed by LBJ, holds no water whatsoever. Let us also not forget the fact that the forensic examination of JFK&#39;s body was kept from the public for approx. 30 years. When the American public was given access to the autopsy results, actual PROOF was shown that there was no way LHO acted as the sole shooter. There were at least two other shooters on the grassy knoll... that is no longer considered speculation. Many witnesses on that day also claimed to hear the two shots that came from behind the fence. The U.S. government has put a hold on all information concerning JFK&#39;s death. It is to be kept classified until - and I might be wrong about the specific time - around the year 2030. I have always believed this was because they wanted to make sure that all persons involved were dead before allowing the public to know the truth. Why else would they tell us there is more to the story, but it is classified? I can&#39;t blame all those people who have spent their lives trying to put this puzzle together. Anyone who has read enough on the subject would find it hard not to speculate also. And, it may be where "conspiracy theory" got it&#39;s start, but it is probably the one incident in our country&#39;s history that merits the question: what are they hiding and why?


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If any of you would like a REAL possibility for his assassination, look up some information on what Martin Luther King Jr. and Kennedy were doing before he was killed. Then look at what LBJ did after the assassination to thwart the efforts of MLKjr. Make sure you also look at the head of the CIA at the time, and his reports to Congress and the president about the "real" abilities and motivations of African-Americans in this country. It is no secret that MLKjr. was working JFK for support for the fight against racial segregation in this country... and JFK was giving him that support. It is also no secret that the CIA paid a black man to assassinate MLKjr. That is not a conspiracy theory, the CIA has readily admitted as much. Should it be only speculation that MLKjr. being assassinated shortly after JFK is just a coincidence? Any of you who understand the SEVERE racial issues that were going on during that time will also understand that this is a very real possibility for the reason JFK was killed.