Strange Sound, Screeching Songs...et Cetera

[OcramC]

50 Cent Album tracks are mostly screwed as well.

Still cannot find clean version of P.I.M.P

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by OcramC@15 October 2003 - 15:38
50 Cent Album tracks are mostly screwed as well.

Still cannot find clean version of P.I.M.P
;) its not just 50 cent songs its a little of everything ;)

[theNetRanger]

hi guys,
YES! i have the same stupid problem.
i dont think it is a virus or a problem with my browser, my friends got that problem too :P

if u ask me, some guys try to DESTROY the kazaa network. they take the original song and add this horrible $%&"! shit.

well, i agree to pay a bit money for the album of my favourite band. :unsure:

hmmm...
i think the problem is that we cant delete these stupid fake files...
if there would be only one server, we wouldnt have that problem :rolleyes:

cYa

[empathydude]

So, I just wanna make sure I got this right...
From what I've read on the numerous(omg so many) posts is that there are two plausable explanations.

(A)People are ripping copy protected music from protected CDs and sharing without checking the files.

This would make sense except
1. I doubt many people would share the files without playing at least one of them.
2. Identical files would not have the screech in different spots.
3. The file size would remain the same when uploaded to different users.
4. Older songs would not be affected, as older CDs shouldnt have copy protection.

(B)COrrupt mp3 files are being distributed due to a flaw in the hashing kpp uses to organize identical files.
Ex.

This is a regular mp3 file:

|musicmusicmusicmusicmuisicmusic|
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Hashes

This is the same file corrupted

|mus-cmusi--usicm--i-mui---m-sic|
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

So the hashes remain unchanged but the song is totally screwed, but kpp thinks its the same file, so it uploads fractions of this song with the origional.

1. THis explains the different sizes. Since the screech is the same bit repeated, it can be compressed leading to a smaller file.
2. a majority of people could upload the good song, only one source of the corrupted song could cause the part they uploaded to screech. Thats why some songs only have a little bit of screeching while others have full blown screech. or the screech could be in a different spot between two identical songs. This also explains how older songs would be affected, because age would not matter to kpp multiple user upload.
3. it would only take three or four computers with a large bandwidth to get this started. Not nessecarily the RIAA, maybe just some trouble makers at school having fun. It doesnt take genius to corrupt an mp3, only a hex editor... But seeing as it is on a large scale, it seems that the attack is organized.

Wellz, thats my two cents, plz tell me if Im understanding. B)

[perdix]

I've been downloading bowies reality album all bar two tracks are gene genie for about 1 min. This has got to be copyright issue but people should take their filles out of circulation. Any how the guy as ever has style for not just inserting noise.

[Sh1t_H4pp3nz]

i think i have figured it out....i had the same problem with every MP3, but i noticed that when i did download something it was really downloading quick (i have 56K, my normal speed is 3-4KBPS) at speeds 5-15KBPS...so i thought about it and i figured it out, its the kazaa lite accelerator doing this problem!! (the plus on the icon on the system tray!) so i disabled it, restarted kazaa lite and downloaded a MP3 that failed before at my normal speed!! and guess what it worked!!! i think this problem causes the accelerator to corrupt the incomming data causing the sounds!! so no RIAA, no copy protection, just a bug in kazaa lite.... have fun :)

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by Sh1t_H4pp3nz@16 October 2003 - 17:22
i think i have figured it out....i had the same problem with every MP3, but i noticed that when i did download something it was really downloading quick (i have 56K, my normal speed is 3-4KBPS) at speeds 5-15KBPS...so i thought about it and i figured it out, its the kazaa lite accelerator doing this problem!! (the plus on the icon on the system tray!) so i disabled it, restarted kazaa lite and downloaded a MP3 that failed before at my normal speed!! and guess what it worked!!! i think this problem causes the accelerator to corrupt the incomming data causing the sounds!! so no RIAA, no copy protection, just a bug in kazaa lite.... have fun :)
but they have come out and said that they are doing this

[Sh1t_H4pp3nz]

that is true but accually its not the RIAA, its just a bug...(i redownloaded the same MP3 from the same person that failed the 1st time and the 2nd time it worked!)

[proskibum]

HI,
after downloading specific MP3 files durring playback the song cuts out 1/4 through and is replaced by high piched squeels. It happens alot, not always. Is it a problem with alot of MP3 files or is there something else wrong?

thanks

[sparsely]

Originally posted by Topic Title
(might Be A Stupid Question)

yes.
it is.

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/style_images/1/atb_search.gif (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?act=Search&f=8)Search

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by proskibum@17 October 2003 - 01:43
HI,
after downloading specific MP3 files durring playback the song cuts out 1/4 through and is replaced by high piched squeels. It happens alot, not always. Is it a problem with alot of MP3 files or is there something else wrong?

thanks
c'mon dude -

Pinned: Strange Sound, Screeching Songs...et Cetera

[MUSLEMAN]

go here (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=49358)

and here (http://www.geocities.com/ian_l_williams/)

[wormless]

mods plz close!

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by wormless@16 October 2003 - 23:19
mods plz close!
you go here and ask that not in this thread they might not see it boss (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=64644&st=570) http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/r/sgrin.gif

[wormless]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN+17 October 2003 - 03:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MUSLEMAN @ 17 October 2003 - 03:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-wormless@16 October 2003 - 23:19
mods plz close&#33;
you go here and ask that not in this thread they might not see it boss (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=64644&st=570) http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/r/sgrin.gif [/b][/quote]
yea realised when i pressed add doh@me ty musleman

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by wormless+16 October 2003 - 23:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wormless @ 16 October 2003 - 23:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@17 October 2003 - 03:20
<!--QuoteBegin-wormless@16 October 2003 - 23:19
mods plz close&#33;
you go here and ask that not in this thread they might not see it boss (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=64644&st=570) http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/r/sgrin.gif
yea realised when i pressed add doh@me ty musleman [/b][/quote]
np boss we all started some where http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/w/thumbs.gif

[m3rcenary]

just in case the above doesnt work, cud anyone tell me how 2 use sound forge 2 get rid of these screeches (its been mentioned that it can)

[Ronny-B]

Is there already a solution to this problem? It&#39;s not corrupted mp3 files, i tried to download music from dido, eminem and 50 cents, and they are all bad, but all were owned by more than 20 users. Did anyone with this problem do anything that i did recently: Install kazaa lite ++, change shared folder, change download accelerator settings. I don&#39;t know what i did wrong, but i can&#39;t download any good mp3 now, divx movies are perfect. Please help me...

Thanx, Ronny-B

[(-=*Spazz*=-)]

B) I have a possible solution for you users out there that HATE the sound distortion.
I have recently ripped the 50 cent cd get rich or dye trying into .WMA FORMAT
For those of you that don&#39;t know, .wma format is the windows media audio format with more compression than an mp3, and higher quality. Every song on the 50 cent cd was PERFECT after ripping into .wma format. I suggest more people use the .wma format and see how things go.
Also, e-mail me and i might send you some 50 cent if u r looking for it&#33;&#33;&#33;
My E-mail: [email protected]

[martini_rob]

Hi everyone ,

i&#39;ve been having the same problems as everyone else &#33; so i had a look at the Mp3&#39;s that have the problem and this is that i find...

this is a 100% man / machine coruption.

if you view faulty mp3&#39;s in a hex editor or even try changing the mp3 file extention to sometime like .txt and view the raw file data you will find something close to this...

&#33;#&#036;&#036;%&#39;((**,--//113346689::<=>>?ABBCDFFGIJJLMNOPQQRTTVWXXY[[]]_`abcdÿû

repeated over and over.

looks very man / computer made to me &#33;&#33;

the saga continues&#33;


just to add to this.. the above data is written into exactly the same point in every fautly file. starting a 207308 bytes into the file. so if u understand correctly... lower bite rate MP3&#39;s will play for longer then high bitrate mp3&#39;s before the weird noises start.

[Nights]

Not sure if this would help but I noticed some things :ph34r:

More then 5 users have the song most of the time

And end file titles are the similar

And the bandwidth is always 1358



Maybe it&#39;s coming form another server?

If this has been brought up IGNOR IT&#33;&#33;
I stopped reading this thread at page 15 :huh:

[soma]

Damn&#33;&#33;&#33;...36 pages l8r and still NO solution.... :P

[Adster]

and there never wil be a solution

get your new shit off IRC

btw I havnt found a f*cked up song in 4 months

[Celerystalksme]

no 36 pages later there are still people who do not listen...

[Adster]

no 36 pages later there are still people who do not listen...

ye very true

[Explosive]

You now, it takes much time to find answer in 36 pages... So everyone who reads this post for the first time will ask about solution...

[YoRu]

Yea like me ... and i just wasted my time :D

another fact which was maybe not mentioned yet:

I searched a file 2 weeks ago: i found no source
i tried it today and i found 280 sources all fucked up.....

looks really like someone is doing this "professional"

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by Adster@20 October 2003 - 08:03

no 36 pages later there are still people who do not listen...

ye very true
i have yet to read 1 full page but see i dont use kazaa anymore so i dont have to worry about it :)

[BallyK]

Do you need yet another opinion?
Well, why not?
After being away all summer I got back online last week only to find a very nasty surprise, ie the topic of this discussion. I have read some (not all obviously) of the posts here and have done a bit of my own research and came up with this conclusion:

It is RIAA or associates/contractors; that is final.
A lot of theories have been put forward about how it is done but I have yet to see it explained how I see it.
It is very simple. They have numerous servers (not one IP range, not a specific bandwith but generally quite high) and on them they run bots programmed to search for .mp3 files that include the names of artists from a list. The bots then copy the file header (sorry I don&#39;t know the specific terminology) and pretend to share that file. When one of us poor souls comes along and tries to download that file the bot just sends a predetermined set of bytes that produce the screeching sound. The reason people have noticed faster downloads is because this repeated information is easily compressed and thus transmitted a lot faster.

The bad news is this system is so simple it will be hard to stop. Obviously the files need to be verified but that would mean some major alterations to Kazaa.
I wonder if we can hear the opinion of the authors of Kazza Lite on this issue?

[Celerystalksme]

I&#39;ve read to much of this...and contributed to much aswell...

:D

[06b]

What would trully make life easier, is for Kazaa to make an update that would scan the files for whatever is corrupting them, and deleting those files.That or someone
blows up the RIAA.

[^Hacker_]

I tend to agree with the other members..
RIAA should be behind of this as older songs never meet the same problem..
Just a cheap tip for new songs you wanna download.. If there are in WMA format
try download these ones as these have great chances to be good ones. Like i always had bad vers of never leavfe you , miss indepentend, miss perfect , pump it up .and some more... When i download the wma song it was just excellent, pretty fast to download as its 4 minute song for 1,50 MB and no probs.. try it... :rolleyes: B) :) :blink: ;) :D :P B) :rolleyes: :angry:

[richcornucopia]

This means that the song is bugged with a virus. I&#39;ve been using Kazaalite for a year and a half, and haven&#39;t had this problem until recently. You usually notice this in the new popular songs, seeing as this is a new bug. If you hear this screeching imediately delete it. I just installed norton and found out that it makes it play the first little bit, then just stops it. I hope this tip is helpful.

[crrp]

hey i am a newbie, i was just wondering what RIAA was?

[crrp]

I have found that when I download new songs it always has this sound in it. I have downloaded several versions and it is all the same horrible sound. I was wondering if playing these songs in another player would stop the sound, or if it is just a kazaa virus so i should just reinstall kazaa

[[B][O][T]]

Originally posted by crrp@22 October 2003 - 00:03
hey i am a newbie, i was just wondering what RIAA was?
http://www.riaa.com

BOT

[lalala]

Hi I have a Question about the mp3&#39;s I am downloading.

A lot of the newest mp3&#39;s are fucked up, with a long scratch in them.

Is this a new protecion or something, or is it a codec I miss??

Can someone tell me, cuz it&#39;s not cool

Thnx&#33;

[firefox]

they are fake files that the RIAA is putting out there, try to download a different one of a different size.

EDIT: You could go HERE (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=64831&st=30&#entry555677) to read about how to avoid fake files.

[lalala]

okay THNX&#33;

[Dragoniso]

Hey folks at Kazaa. I think i may have an idea to help this. Ive noticed that the only people who upload these songs have very high band width, ie servers. Perhaps in your next release you could include an option to REJECT any connections above a certain bandwidth? Lets face it, your average joe doesnt have a plus 1Mbs connection anyway. Ok so then the RIAA would then distrubute these dud files accross smaller servers. Maybe the kazaa client could scan files as they download for the &#39; &#33;##%&&#39;()*++,-./0133557889;;<>??ABBDEEFHHJKLMNNOPQRSTVWXXZZ&#092;]^^_aacdÿû&#39;
spam in the files, warn the user and cancel the download. So then the RIAA generate random spam in the files. Maybe the kazaa client could &#39;listen&#39; and recognize the horrible screech. Its a win win situation, we dont get our ears blasted and we final get to see the end to celine dione. Just a thought, but please do something about this wholey annoying problem.

[MUSLEMAN]

you also need to go here (http://www.geocities.com/ian_l_williams/) and hit the tips under my sig and look for that subject

[Gre1]

I&#39;m going to start keep count of these type of posts.

This is number 1 :lol:

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by Gre1@23 October 2003 - 02:06
I&#39;m going to start keep count of these type of posts.

This is number 1 :lol:
you just might start at million and 1 :lol:

[Gre1]

We probably won&#39;t stop seeing this question till next June :lol:

[Celerystalksme]

Originally posted by Gre1@23 October 2003 - 15:15
We probably won&#39;t stop seeing this question till next June :lol:
talk about :spam:

[Adster]

why June :huh:

[ljossberir]

Every Maiden track we download is Hallowed be thy name, regardless of what it is named

F U fakers

lol

[wolfdogg]

Are you still trying to figure out what&#39;s going on? Still not convinced this is an all our assault by the RIAA and the record companies? Here&#39;s yer&#39; sign....


I found a blurb in a USA today article that states:

"Meanwhile, as a pre-emptive strike, the record industry hired specialized software companies to flood the Internet with glitch-filled versions of songs as a way to frustrate would-be KaZaA file sharers. In reaction, the KaZaA service this week introduced updated software that rates files so users can avoid corrupted versions"

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/kev...09-25-maney.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/kevinmaney/2002-09-25-maney.htm)

...and then there&#39;s this blurb from an article in The Weekly Standard:

"This bill would allow record companies to foil attempts to share illegal copies of copyrighted files by flooding systems with corrupted or false copies of popular music, using practices known as interdiction, redirection, and spoofing. Some bands, most notably the Canadian group Barenaked Ladies, have already put trick files on the Internet that look like a copy of one of their songs, but instead play a message from the band saying, "Although you thought you were downloading our new single, what you actually were downloading is an advertisement for our new album." These files, like the ones permitted under the Berman bill, didn&#39;t do any permanent damage to users&#39; computers; they simply made free MP3 sites more frustrating to use and reliable pay sites (backed by RIAA) more attractive. "

http://www.theweeklystandard.com/Content/P...01/579azbul.asp (http://www.theweeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/579azbul.asp)

And finally.. would you like to know who is responsible? Here ya&#39; go.... Overpeer Inc.

SPOOFS

Digital Decoys

In an attempt to foil those seeking free music, the recording industry is flooding the Internet with fake song files

By David Kushner

It plays like something out of the "Twilight Zone": consider the story of Joe Music Fan. He logs on to his favorite peer-to-peer network to download the new Eminem song. But when he boots up the track, something spooky occurs. Eminem is repeating the same four words over and over. "Holy Encryption&#33;" Joe Music Fan exclaims, "Spoofed again."

Scenes like this occur a million times a day among the clients of the burgeoning peer-to-peer (P2P) services that have taken over music file sharing from Napster. Recording companies are now taking the offensive against music piracy, and Napster successors such as Morpheus and LimeWire are facing their onslaught—the flooding of their P2P services with so-called spoofs, that is, falsified MP3 files that appear under a song&#39;s usual track name but, when played, offer only a frustrating mix of looped choruses or noise.

The idea is to hit pirates where it hurts —boxing their ears with spoiled music to encourage them to buy CDs or obtain music on the Web through legitimate methods rather than download songs illegally for free. "Copyright owners would like to use technology to protect their interests so long as they&#39;re not causing damage," says Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA, Washington, D.C.), the recording industry&#39;s trade group. The question is: what, if any, damage is being done?

The company behind the spoofs is Overpeer Inc. (New York City). Overpeer is run by Marc Morgenstern, former senior vice president for new media for the music publishing company, American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (New York City). Overpeer employs dozens of engineers who create altered MP3 files. According to Morgenstern, they protect more than 30 000 titles—including songs, videos, and games—by producing spoofs of them and putting them on the Internet. He calculates that his group blocks more than 200 million acts of piracy every month when its spoofs are downloaded instead of the real things.

"It&#39;s a real cat-and-mouse game," Morgenstern says. "We continually upgrade and adapt our solution to keep up with the changes of the peer-to-peer clients."

P2P company Morpheus says that it will have anti-spoof wares in its next upgrade. And BearShare, used by Gnutella surfers, and KaZaA software already employ forms of user ratings that can blow a spoof&#39;s cover.

Mark Gorton, CEO of LimeWire LLC (New York City) just doesn&#39;t see any long-term impact. "I don&#39;t think spoofs have potential to hurt the peer-to-peer network," he says. "People who download something other than what they&#39;re looking for just delete it and try something else."

Surveys tell a different story. Lee Black, a senior analyst for Jupiter Research (New York City), a technology research firm, has found that spoofs do frustrate many users. This could help the music industry get its wish: drive consumers to join its online music subscription clubs, MusicNet Inc. or Pressplay (both in New York City).

Meanwhile, content owners want ever stronger weapons. The Peer-to-Peer Piracy Prevention Act, introduced in Congress by Representative Howard L. Berman (D-Calif.), would grant content owners the right to unleash a barrage of hack attacks against online pirates. An example might be denial of service, an online attack that swamps a server with so many requests for a single file that the computer crashes, or at least cannot fulfill legitimate requests.

But the act&#39;s draconian aspects—such as relieving government hackers of liability for any damage done during the pursuit of pirates—have created opposition. Berman no sooner introduced the bill than the Computer & Communications Industry Association (Washington, D.C.), a trade group whose member companies include Yahoo&#33; and AOL Time Warner, issued a press release, declaring that "the last thing we need is to create a protected group of hackers."

Unprotected hackers expressed their displeasure by swamping the RIAA&#39;s Web site with their own denial-of-service attack. With spoofing on the rise, the salvos have likely just begun.

http://audioworld.com/cgi-bin/FrameIt.cgi?...ile=FrameIt.cfg (http://audioworld.com/cgi-bin/FrameIt.cgi?Url=http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature/may03/deco.html&ConfigFile=FrameIt.cfg)


--------------------Cheers&#33; :)

[wolfdogg]

And yet another good article on Overpeer, Inc.

http://64.225.202.40/mediadefender/press%2...lobe_7_7_03.htm (http://64.225.202.40/mediadefender/press%20about%20MD/bostonglobe_7_7_03.htm)

Also.. I noticed the mp3 checker link on the tips page is no longer valid. Could somebody send this tool to me? I want to try it out. I&#39;m at [email protected] Thanks&#33;

USE SOULSEEK&#33; IT&#39;S FANTASTIC.. AND USERS SHARE ENTIRE ALBUMS, NOT JUST SINGLES&#33;

[freaktweaky46]

Well, the music companies are planting files with this horrible sound embedded into a song to make you so annoyed that you will stop downloading music.... I hate it, but if you don&#39;t download the title with lots and lots of users and a high bandwidth, you tend to have less messed up files. It seems that most plants have 128 bps, so look for 160, 192, or 128, but don&#39;t select the best bandwidth. Remember the bad titles file sizes&#33;

Good Luck&#33;

[C-Mac]

Okay, perhaps I&#39;m a little late on this, and I&#39;m nearly sure some of these have been suggested so far, but I&#39;ll be honest... I haven&#39;t read all 37 pages on this topic.

Here&#39;s what I&#39;ve gathered: Download MP3s from users that return just ONE result. This seems to be the best way to do it to avoid the screeching sounds after 15-20 seconds. Okay, so you all probably know that. Again, forgive me if this has already been brought up, but why don&#39;t we all take to editing our MP3s? I use GoldWave, myself. I&#39;m not talking drastic, but maybe just add half a second of nothingness to the end of our MP3s. If I&#39;ve got this right, this would differentiate our MP3s from the popular ones which are corrupted, wouldn&#39;t it? It would add a few KBs to the file, and thus we would not appear as one of the 37 users who have the corrupted MP3 (although of course it would not be corrupted on our computers). We would appear as a completely separate entry from the spoofed MP3 because ours is half a second longer and a few KBs bigger, just by adding the half second of dead air. So whoever is behind this will have to create a spoof for our new file, same KBs and all. If we edit our MP3s every couple of weeks or so, either adding or subtracting an insignificant amount of dead air, I see no problem here.

Now there is a good chance I am missing something here - Maybe the corrupted files don&#39;t need to be the same KB to show up under the same entry, I don&#39;t know. Anyway, correct me where I am wrong, but no flaming please? I&#39;m just trying to help out a bit.

[gibbs36]

Correct me if I&#39;m wrong...but if the next version of kazaa disables the automatic "find more sources for download" option, and downloads each file from only one source it would correct this problem. If i have a file on my computer that is not corrupt, and someone tries to download that file, they shouldn&#39;t have a problem. However, when someone starts downloading a file from my computer, and one of these computers from the record companies comes in as another source for the download, the part of the file that was downloaded from the record company&#39;s computer will be corrupt.

They have plenty of bandwith to support several hundred thousand users, so every file is at least partially downloaded from one of their computers. If you could download a file from only one person, even when there are hundreds of people with the same file, we wouldn&#39;t have this problem. download times would be a little slower, but we would be able to get music. I just hope there&#39;s an update to kazaa that fixes this before too many of these corrupt files get onto people&#39;s hard drives, then it&#39;ll be almost impossible to download music.

[Celerystalksme]

noob conversations are great :mellow:

[andwhat112]

I&#39;ve been viewing a couple of these messed up songs in notepad and found that the screeching starts where the file seems to repeat itself. The beginning marker for the screeching sound appears to be some variant of the following...

&#33;#&#036;%%
or
&#33;"##&#036;&&

Then the ending of the pattern is...

abcdÿû
or
aaccÿû

But I don&#39;t suppose the ending of this loop would always be the same, unless the people who screwed these MP3 were stupid. I don&#39;t think they are.

My solution to this problem is listen to the music you download and just skip 20 or 30 seconds into the song, if your hear the screech delete that song and better luck next time. So far I&#39;ve only seen this happen to MP3s and not larger files like movies.

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by Celerystalksme@2 November 2003 - 01:41
noob conversations are great :mellow:
they sure are

[Rotten_Apple]

Originally posted by wolfdogg@25 October 2003 - 15:58
And yet another good article on Overpeer, Inc.

http://64.225.202.40/mediadefender/press%2...lobe_7_7_03.htm (http://64.225.202.40/mediadefender/press%20about%20MD/bostonglobe_7_7_03.htm)

Also.. I noticed the mp3 checker link on the tips page is no longer valid.&nbsp; Could somebody send this tool to me?&nbsp; I want to try it out.&nbsp; I&#39;m at [email protected]&nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks&#33;&nbsp;

USE SOULSEEK&#33;&nbsp; IT&#39;S FANTASTIC.. AND USERS SHARE ENTIRE ALBUMS, NOT JUST SINGLES&#33;
any chance you could provide a link for SOULSEEK
http://members.shaw.ca/wenpigsfly/smileys/pencil.gif

[Jayhawk]

everything you need to know about soulseek is here (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=45353) :)

[Adster]

will this ever end

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by Adster@2 November 2003 - 22:02
will this ever end
never

[Celerystalksme]

:mellow:

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by Celerystalksme@3 November 2003 - 01:21
:mellow:
:huh:

i wonder if any n00b has read every page of this?

[Kalimist]

the RIAA are winning the fucking war, 2.8 million at 8am british time.... i reckon kazaa will be doomed soon, i know no one wants to say it, but i can see it....

[Celerystalksme]

:huh: :mellow:

[CrumbCat]

Originally posted by KwahyaJ@2 November 2003 - 20:30
everything you need to know about soulseek is here (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=45353) :)
Don&#39;t trust that KwahyaJ person&#33;

CC

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by CrumbCat+7 November 2003 - 10:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CrumbCat @ 7 November 2003 - 10:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KwahyaJ@2 November 2003 - 20:30
everything you need to know about soulseek is here (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=45353) :)
Don&#39;t trust that KwahyaJ person&#33;

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y no trusting me

[Jay]

Originally posted by Kalimist@4 November 2003 - 03:16
the RIAA are winning the fucking war, 2.8 million at 8am british time.... i reckon kazaa will be doomed soon, i know no one wants to say it, but i can see it....
as much as it hurts my heart to say it, its true. music is dead on kazaa, atleast we have soulseek and IRC

[aquatics2003]

:swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: its really f*c*s me off wen i try and d/l a song and its got the "screeching" noises in, ive noticed that it only really happens on new songs, thats f**king annoying. Well theres only one work around and thats "everyone goto your local cd store and n*ck all the lastest cds" :lol: :lol: :lol: well i suppose if everyone d/l&#39;ed and never brought a cd then the music industry wud collapse. After napster there was kazza and after kazza finally falls victims to the record companies and gets ordered 2 shut down there will be the next major file-sharing software, they won&#39;t beat file sharing, its too massive.

[lord_pepijn]

I suffer the same problem (only with new music). I think this phenomenon is organized by music companies. They have a lot computers connected to the file sharing system and poison the world of file sharing with the infected (noisy) files.
Another example is a very recent cd which I downloaded cotaining only loops (hard to detect).

Anyone the same nasty ideas???
:angry:

[Formula1]

n00bs are so funny these days :huh: :lol:

[Energizer_God]

How come to verifieds still have these songs in them. I still get the odd new song not corrupted 1of 10 lucky for high speed. B)

[livewire69]

The screeching sound and loops are put on by record companies to stop ppl dlding the file and buy it. it normally happens with popular songs and new songs.

[Kevin Phoenix]

You know there is a simple solutions here. Granted it may be more time consuming. But if you got the patience, simply download several variations of any particular song and simply skim through each one to hear whether or not those screeching sounds are in them and if they are, just immediately delete the file. What&#39;s left over you can choose the one with the best bitrate.

The point is that there will ALWAYS be a fine quality version of any song new or old that hasn&#39;t been tampered with or ripped by a means that bypasses any sabotage methods.

[Kevin Phoenix]

By the way, the group known as Da Band also has screeched songs floating around out there. Just thought I&#39;d point that out.

[Gutter]

Looped songs seem to be on the rise as well.

Some of the record companies not assoicated with the RIAA have different methods of deturing your downloads.

[GreyMack]

What a long post of drivel, with a few gems of logic&#33; I haven&#39;t downloaded any songs recently, but I can tell from reading the posts that the RIAA has found a flaw to exploit. Kazaa looks for files with matching data in the header, and the RIAA hacks can insert this number in even though they are supplying a noisy file.
Can they do this? You bet&#33; The technology is there, and they OWN the copyright.
So how do you tell a pickle from a cucumber? Use your nose&#33; It&#39;s harder than it used to be, sure. None of the solutions is perfect or permanent (yet). The RIAA can circumvent many of the solutions proposed here. We&#39;ve just got to make them work for it. I&#39;m certain they heartily enjoyed watching and taking part in this post.
Me thinks it may be necessary to establish trusted contacts within the p2p net.

Later

[Circular Square]

If everyone agressivley deleted the infected files then the RIAAs job would be made much harder and more costly. Seeing as they will have to apply more time and resources to planting the corrupted files. Untill some script kiddie finds a way to code a solution it should be our goal to make the RIAAs life just that little bit harder.

And just for the benefit of all who are reading this, all 200 (my computer is underpowered and overcramped) of the music files that I share are certifiably clean of RIAA syndrome.

[blackjak521]

It can&#39;t just be new songs, because i spent over an hour today trying to download twenty ABBA songs. There were thousands of sources, as you can imagine, and NINETEEN of the TWENTY songs were corrupted in exactly the same way all of you have sed. After about seventeen seconds a great screeching sound comes into play.

I thought it might just be a problem with my speakers so i uploaded the songs onto minidisc, regardless. The screeching sound persisted on the MD too, so i was helpless there.

I was glad to come on the forum and find this topic pinned, but there&#39;s still no help available.

I downloaded many of the songs many times (3 or 4 times each song) from all different, but it didnt help. Every song was corrupted.

I also tried downloading Kelly Clarkson&#39;s "The Trouble With Love Is" and that was corrupted also.

What the hell can i possibly do to fix this?

[nuclear hawk]

Having the same problem
I don&#39;t know what to do&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
I hardly find good quality songs. today was able to find 1&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
Something terrible is happening and no i don&#39;t have any KNOWN viruses

[bostondogcd]

I&#39;ve been having this problem for a couple of months. Any way around it???
Also, over the past week in the lower right corner it says sharing no files, when there&#39;s plenty in my shared folder. Any ideas???

[Novart]

Originally posted by Kevin Phoenix@13 November 2003 - 05:57
By the way, the group known as Da Band also has screeched songs floating around out there. Just thought I&#39;d point that out.
Good, no one should be listening to "Da Band".

[nuclear hawk]

well one thing is for sure:
They managed to hack in and redirect downloads, so here&#39;s something I&#39;ve thought about...It&#39;s not an easy solution but it might work
everyone of us will get a list of numerous kazaa users by their nicknames and open an e-mail account on some site-like hotmail, yahoo, anything you like and each day someone will start sending passwords "for today" to persons in his list every person in his list-to his "buddies"-chain reaction, hardly to trace for RIAA, couse you don&#39;t know who is the leader. The password would be, for example 444 at the end of each song, and we download it only if it has this ending. The password would change every day at 22:00 Europe time. Somehting similar was used by 17&#39;th century pirates, of course there was no e-mail then...
Now I know it&#39;s hard and everything you&#39;ll say against it would be correct, but it&#39;s the solution...
what do you think?

[nuclear hawk]

Anyway, folks
anyone knows what kazaa team is doing to prevent this shit?

[The Real Santa]

im luckally no haveing that problem much lately :D

[KazaaLite+++]

this is the end of kazaa, i can&#39;t get shit anymore

[Eulogy]

Well I think its bullshit because there ARE songs that I can NOT find in the store. Esepecially some live shit. So there are artists that are losing millions of dollars. They&#39;re still doing a dream job and getting paid for it, quite well too. And filesharing is good for little artists that dont have their name out yet.

I give the RIAA a big electronical middle finger for their efforts. I think the music industry will just totally die altogether. People wont be as obsessed with music because it wont be free. The only thing the RIAA might get out of this is a few more radio sales. (because the songs on the radio are free).

I cant find any old Alice in Chains cd&#39;s at my local music store. All this old stuff that is hard to get ahold of in the real world can be easily found in the electronic one, but not anymore. Well if you want bitching/screetching theres plenty in both worlds (both from the RIAA supposably).

Also if they actually try to sue everyone I&#39;m sure there&#39;d be a world wide depression lol.

[Mr. Sherman]

Originally posted by Eulogy+18 November 2003 - 00:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Eulogy &#064; 18 November 2003 - 00:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Well I think its bullshit because there ARE songs that I can NOT find in the store. Esepecially some live shit. So there are artists that are losing millions of dollars. They&#39;re still doing a dream job and getting paid for it, quite well too. And filesharing is good for little artists that dont have their name out yet.

I give the RIAA a big electronical middle finger for their efforts. I think the music industry will just totally die altogether. People wont be as obsessed with music because it wont be free. The only thing the RIAA might get out of this is a few more radio sales. (because the songs on the radio are free).

I cant find any old Alice in Chains cd&#39;s at my local music store. All this old stuff that is hard to get ahold of in the real world can be easily found in the electronic one, but not anymore. Well if you want bitching/screetching theres plenty in both worlds (both from the RIAA supposably).

Also if they actually try to sue everyone I&#39;m sure there&#39;d be a world wide depression lol.[/b]
"I give the RIAA a big electronical middle finger for their efforts."

Dear Mr. Eulogy,

First - I sincerely hope you mean that as a compliment. Second - "electronical"......I do not think I have ever heard that word before. If you would be so kind as to give me your address, I will happily send you the latest copy of Webster&#39;s Dictionary.

For all you other fans of the Screechy-Scratchy Sounding MP3&#39;s - just you wait until I get my new Screech-Master 3100 - then I will really begin flooding you with some interesting songs.

Have a look at this:


Originally posted by the_faceman@14 November 2003 - 10:23
<!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Sherman@14 November 2003 - 06:38
Sorry....


No introduction needed.


I thought I was up on all the latest spin doctors - apparently I was wrong, as I have no idea who that guy is.

I don&#39;t recognize him from an of the shows I have attended.

Anyhow, thank you for your consideration in sending me the ScreetchMaster3000. I look forward to using it. And yes, I will happily endorse the product. Who knows, maybe you would consider me for you television commercials - then I can deliver my endorsement straight to the worlds living rooms. Please consider it.

Respectfully,

Mr. Sherman
Mr.Sherman, i have great news. Once you expressed your interest in our product, our share price went through the roof, and our investors ploughed more money into our product. This has allowed us to make our first complete, ready-for-sale Screech-Master. The 3100&#33;&#33;&#33;

I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll agree, aesthetically the machine is a work of art. New production equipment has allowed us to lower our costs and pass these savings onto the customer - the discerning Music Pirate&#33; It now costs only &#036;349.95 &#33;

Please call me on the details i sent to you via PM, and we&#39;ll set up a date for filming some TV commercials.

Once again, many thanks.

the_faceman.

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/141103-SM3100.jpg[/quote]

Consider yourself warned.

Sincerely,

Mr. Sherman.

*Edit* This was my 50th post&#33; :D

[john27374]

so are there any solutions yet? Or do we still have to manually spot the fakes? I checked out Soulseek and, although I&#39;m sure it&#39;s nice, their Search is absolutely horrid. :(

[nuclear hawk]

Mr Sherman, if it&#39;s you, well you are not the only one who can use a computer and screw others in cyber-space
see it&#39;s as a worning, RIAA&#39;s son of a bitch

[nuclear hawk]

Now Mr.Sherman just to be correct-I am not a hacker so I can do little if any about you, theese are the good news for you. But the bad news are I am not the only person on this planet who has a computer and internet connection I hope they&#39;ll get you

[Mr. Sherman]

Dr. Mr. nuclear hawk,

Your posts truly bring some much needed comic relief to this boring topic. You have brought some laughter into my otherwise typical day - and for that I thank you.

And BTW - I count my lucky stars that you are not a hacker.

*Mr. Sherman is laughing his @ss off&#33;

Sincerely,

Mr. Sherman

[Kahu]

Didnt get the chance to read all 40 pages, but ill add this anywayz

As im sure most of you know about the corrupted mp3&#39;s that have spread around.
It seems that most of the new/popular songs have been corrupted and seeded. Youll notice that the first 20 seconds or so of a song will sound fine, and then get garbled into a screechy sound.

This is a powerful blow from the RIAA/Record company&#39;s or whomever these corrupted files originated from. you gotta give these guys props for their effort. heh.

"A cottage industry of companies has sprung up that saturates file-swapping networks with false or corrupted versions of songs and videos, hoping to frustrate would-be downloaders." -CNET News.com
“Update on the piracy wars
Snap, crackle, hiss. The ongoing battle over copyrighted works has taken yet another innovative turn. The Washington Post reports that, with growing frequency, "spoof" files are turning up on popular sites (such as Kazaa) where music fans illegally trade songs online. Spoofs are repetitive loops or snippets filled with crackle and hissing sounds. Thousands are now downloaded every day by unsuspecting music sharers.

Record labels have been hesitant to openly address spoofing, but the trade group that represents them, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), has called it an acceptable manner with which to fight piracy. New file-sharing entities are proliferating, and two billion songs are traded monthly, according to the Association. The labels are also backing a bill that is now being considered by the U.S. Congress that would make it legal to "impair the operation of peer-to-peer" networks. Spoofing is but one tactic that would fall under the auspices of the bill. "We&#39;re looking for a way to stop gross infringers, and there are measures that we can take to prevent people from making 100 copies or uploading CDs for millions to take," said Hillary Rosen, chairwoman of the RIAA.” –RSA Rsasecurity.com

They have taken advantage of the multiple sources function of your p2p program.
They seed 1 corrupt file somewhere that is identical to a good file. The p2p program thinks its the same exact file. So you find a file/song that 10 people are sharing. 9 of the files/songs are good and that 1 file is corrupt. Well the p2p program downloads chunks from all 10 file&#39;s including the corrupted chunks. Thats why youll hear the screechy sounds in different parts of the song.

This is only a speed bump and there are Steps in which you can take to get around this until someone develops a plugin or something to filter these corrupted files out.

Listen completely to your mp3&#39;s and delete any garbage songs. This will minimize the spread of these corrupted files.
Also... limit the number of ‘Max Sources’ to 2 or so to minimize the chances of you getting part of these few corrupted files. If you dont limit the number of ‘Max Sources’, your more than likely to get a hefty chunk of garbage in your song. Good luck fellaz&#33;

[Kahu]

heh. just finished reading all 40 pages of bewl sheot. man... I almost gave up around 10 times. It has been the most agitating experience.

Thank goodness for that screechmaster 3100 sheot. Funny stuff man&#33;&#33;

[Gutter]

Originally posted by Eulogy@17 November 2003 - 16:45
Well I think its bullshit because there ARE songs that I can NOT find in the store. Esepecially some live shit. So there are artists that are losing millions of dollars. They&#39;re still doing a dream job and getting paid for it, quite well too. And filesharing is good for little artists that dont have their name out yet.

I give the RIAA a big electronical middle finger for their efforts. I think the music industry will just totally die altogether. People wont be as obsessed with music because it wont be free. The only thing the RIAA might get out of this is a few more radio sales. (because the songs on the radio are free).

I cant find any old Alice in Chains cd&#39;s at my local music store. All this old stuff that is hard to get ahold of in the real world can be easily found in the electronic one, but not anymore. Well if you want bitching/screetching theres plenty in both worlds (both from the RIAA supposably).

Also if they actually try to sue everyone I&#39;m sure there&#39;d be a world wide depression lol.
you need to be introduced to soulseek my friend
rare, live, and older albums a plenty


Pinned: --&#62; Soulseek <-----&#62; Klf Music World <-- (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=45353)
How2download full albums (No more Fakes)

[Skeptic-WM]

:lol: Prety Funny huh??? But any how some guide are good thanks a lot.

And yeaho those screechy schrachy irratated noise I have experienced those as well but not often.

BTW thanks those who introduced SOULSEEK quite useful but err... takes time... most of the people who own the song I want not online (LoL, in my case)




Quite entertaining and quite eyes opening... :D

[wolfdogg]

Since people don&#39;t bother to go back and read, I&#39;ll post my earlier post again...

Are you still trying to figure out what&#39;s going on? Still not convinced this is an all our assault by the RIAA and the record companies? Here&#39;s yer&#39; sign....


I found a blurb in a USA today article that states:

"Meanwhile, as a pre-emptive strike, the record industry hired specialized software companies to flood the Internet with glitch-filled versions of songs as a way to frustrate would-be KaZaA file sharers. In reaction, the KaZaA service this week introduced updated software that rates files so users can avoid corrupted versions"

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/kev...09-25-maney.htm

...and then there&#39;s this blurb from an article in The Weekly Standard:

"This bill would allow record companies to foil attempts to share illegal copies of copyrighted files by flooding systems with corrupted or false copies of popular music, using practices known as interdiction, redirection, and spoofing. Some bands, most notably the Canadian group Barenaked Ladies, have already put trick files on the Internet that look like a copy of one of their songs, but instead play a message from the band saying, "Although you thought you were downloading our new single, what you actually were downloading is an advertisement for our new album." These files, like the ones permitted under the Berman bill, didn&#39;t do any permanent damage to users&#39; computers; they simply made free MP3 sites more frustrating to use and reliable pay sites (backed by RIAA) more attractive. "

http://www.theweeklystandard.com/Content/P...01/579azbul.asp

And finally.. would you like to know who is responsible? Here ya&#39; go.... Overpeer Inc.
--------------------Cheers&#33;

SPOOFS

Digital Decoys

In an attempt to foil those seeking free music, the recording industry is flooding the Internet with fake song files

By David Kushner

It plays like something out of the "Twilight Zone": consider the story of Joe Music Fan. He logs on to his favorite peer-to-peer network to download the new Eminem song. But when he boots up the track, something spooky occurs. Eminem is repeating the same four words over and over. "Holy Encryption&#33;" Joe Music Fan exclaims, "Spoofed again."

Scenes like this occur a million times a day among the clients of the burgeoning peer-to-peer (P2P) services that have taken over music file sharing from Napster. Recording companies are now taking the offensive against music piracy, and Napster successors such as Morpheus and LimeWire are facing their onslaught—the flooding of their P2P services with so-called spoofs, that is, falsified MP3 files that appear under a song&#39;s usual track name but, when played, offer only a frustrating mix of looped choruses or noise.

The idea is to hit pirates where it hurts —boxing their ears with spoiled music to encourage them to buy CDs or obtain music on the Web through legitimate methods rather than download songs illegally for free. "Copyright owners would like to use technology to protect their interests so long as they&#39;re not causing damage," says Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA, Washington, D.C.), the recording industry&#39;s trade group. The question is: what, if any, damage is being done?

The company behind the spoofs is Overpeer Inc. (New York City). Overpeer is run by Marc Morgenstern, former senior vice president for new media for the music publishing company, American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (New York City). Overpeer employs dozens of engineers who create altered MP3 files. According to Morgenstern, they protect more than 30 000 titles—including songs, videos, and games—by producing spoofs of them and putting them on the Internet. He calculates that his group blocks more than 200 million acts of piracy every month when its spoofs are downloaded instead of the real things.

"It&#39;s a real cat-and-mouse game," Morgenstern says. "We continually upgrade and adapt our solution to keep up with the changes of the peer-to-peer clients."

P2P company Morpheus says that it will have anti-spoof wares in its next upgrade. And BearShare, used by Gnutella surfers, and KaZaA software already employ forms of user ratings that can blow a spoof&#39;s cover.

Mark Gorton, CEO of LimeWire LLC (New York City) just doesn&#39;t see any long-term impact. "I don&#39;t think spoofs have potential to hurt the peer-to-peer network," he says. "People who download something other than what they&#39;re looking for just delete it and try something else."

Surveys tell a different story. Lee Black, a senior analyst for Jupiter Research (New York City), a technology research firm, has found that spoofs do frustrate many users. This could help the music industry get its wish: drive consumers to join its online music subscription clubs, MusicNet Inc. or Pressplay (both in New York City).

Meanwhile, content owners want ever stronger weapons. The Peer-to-Peer Piracy Prevention Act, introduced in Congress by Representative Howard L. Berman (D-Calif.), would grant content owners the right to unleash a barrage of hack attacks against online pirates. An example might be denial of service, an online attack that swamps a server with so many requests for a single file that the computer crashes, or at least cannot fulfill legitimate requests.

But the act&#39;s draconian aspects—such as relieving government hackers of liability for any damage done during the pursuit of pirates—have created opposition. Berman no sooner introduced the bill than the Computer & Communications Industry Association (Washington, D.C.), a trade group whose member companies include Yahoo&#33; and AOL Time Warner, issued a press release, declaring that "the last thing we need is to create a protected group of hackers."

Unprotected hackers expressed their displeasure by swamping the RIAA&#39;s Web site with their own denial-of-service attack. With spoofing on the rise, the salvos have likely just begun.

http://audioworld.com/cgi-bin/FrameIt.cgi?...ile=FrameIt.cfg


-- In my opinion, you guys are just making this way too hard. And those of you suggesting to just keep downloading until you find a good version are making this way too hard. Nobody wants to spend 2 hours or longer downloading 1 song. That&#39;s exactly what the RIAA wants you to do. I just downloaded Soulseek and WinMX and I use them both. Soulseek is my new favorite. I actually like it much better than Kazaa because you just click on album folders and it brings the whole album down (Sorry RIAA.. that&#39;s got to suck to read). If you don&#39;t find what you&#39;re looking for.. you just enter one of the many rooms listed at the bottom right of the screen and ask for it, by leaving a message. You can come back later in the day and someone will almost always have replied that they&#39;ve added you to their list and to go download off of them. It&#39;s great software.
It&#39;s a shame this post doesn&#39;t have all of the irrelevant crap weeded out of it. It&#39;s no wonder people post the same questions again and again. Unfortunately, I&#39;ve noticed the worst people to do it are the older members of the forum... celery and those guys. You guys like to leave a post about how funny noob reading is every page or 2. Does this give you a sense of claiming ownership or something?... because my dog does that to fire hydrants, but with such ignorance, I can&#39;t explain to him that the hydrant is no more his than mine. Still, he&#39;ll piss on it every day. Do you think we give a flying fuck-a-diddle that you have thousands of posts? If you don&#39;t have anything relevant to say, you should shut the hell up and quit ruining the posts for everyone. You would think that with so many posts, you might be able to actually offer help to people, but I see that it&#39;s the noobs that are actually providing all the answers. This is contrary to most forums, where the long time members will usually provide you with the answers.

Good luck to all and long live P2P&#33;

[Kahu]

First off, Wolfdogg, I agree with you. That is what was so agitating to read. All of the bewlsheot chatter and useless info. I swear there&#39;s like 100 links that start you off at the beginning of this forum. Your previous post with the article&#39;s were very useful. It seems the more experienced user&#39;s of this forum must be around 15 years old. too cocky to help someone. All that n00b sheot comes from kid&#39;s mouth&#39;s. They are dumb enough actually think its offensive.

I had already read your original post.
as for my post... it was already pre-written. I left out more articles I found. I guess i should edit it for future use. I&#39;ve just been trying to spread the word to the folks who are still clueless and actually help someone. spread the word.

[wolfdogg]

Kahu,
I fully agree with you on the age thing. That&#39;s what I suspect, as well.
And don&#39;t think I was cracking on anything you wrote.. You&#39;re one of the few actually offering sound advice...and thinking things through and researching before you post. And I also agree with you.. You&#39;ve got to give them (the RIAA or whoever) their due for what they&#39;ve done. I&#39;m sure on the large scale, it&#39;s quite effective. Your average teenage girl is just going to give up after downloading about 4 or 5 bad songs. And let&#39;s face it.. that&#39;s really their target audience.. not the advanced users. They&#39;ll always get theirs and I&#39;m sure they know that...
Cheers&#33;

[andi0kam]

yeh, same problem here very strange isnt it. Although I doubt it could be virus or hack because I use various antivirus software and im sure one of them would have picked it up.

It must be just RIAA planting false files.. any tips on how to find which one is safe and which one isnt?

[halfbakedskillet]

Ok...I have information to add to this. It seems that the screechy noises arent acually totally screwed files. When I play them in Winamp, they still make the noise, but it starts playing normally when I click on the bar that changes track position (even though I don&#39;t change the track position...just click on the selector). You can also just scroll to the "screechy" part and it will play fine in Winamp. I think that this might mean that the tracks don&#39;t have new parts inserted in them, but instead have the codec or encryprion changed in the middle of the song (without telling the player), and when you tell Winamp to restart playing that part, it re-reads that part of the file and selects the right codec or encryption. This would mean that it would be possible to write a program to fix these proplems, wouldn&#39;t it?


...just my 2 cents

**NOTE** As far as I know, this only works in Winamp. I have winamp version 3.0 build #488 (x86) - Feb 25 2003. I run windows xp pro. If anyone else has noticed this, post what happened, what version of Windows you run, and wat OS you have. I haven&#39;t seen any of the track position jump around or anything. I don&#39;t have any patches or addons installed to Winamp, except some skins. I&#39;ve tried this with mutiple files, and it works the vast majority of the time, occasionally it just changes from one screechy noise to another one, but thats only happened once to me.

[Afronaut]

This is a rather funny thread. ;)
They ask the same questions but no one actually wants to read the answer.

Why?

Ignorance?

One could do some basic searching about donloading music in musicworld,
check the pinned topics etc.
There is other (one would say even better) ways to download music than Kazaa too.

Cheers:
-GS-

[Kahu]

Ignorance? doubtful. It seems all the threads on this topic have been merged into one. Doing a search will just bring you back to the beginning of this thread. I dont know about you, but I thought it was pretty sorry to have to read through 590 posts of theory&#39;s and bewlshshit just to find facts on the issue. Judging by your post, im pretty sure you didnt read through every post on this thread. So tell me this, where is the answer you speak of?

have fun reading.

[Sh1t_H4pp3nz]

P2P sucks dick now :lol:

[Rappy]

Originally posted by Sh1t_H4pp3nz@25 November 2003 - 03:11
P2P sucks dick now :lol:
your name is p2p now?

[Aoz_Boz]

it&#39;s the RIAA puting corrupt files onto the network but if you keep downloading the same song off different sources you will get a goo version sooner or later : :P

[Rappy]

a goo version?

[Jayhawk]

Originally posted by Aoz_Boz@25 November 2003 - 07:22
it&#39;s the RIAA puting corrupt files onto the network but if you keep downloading the same song off different sources you will get a goo version sooner or later : :P
dont forget people there are other progams out there besides K-Lite :)

[Rappy]

dammit the problem is getting worse not better 5 of the 10 songs i downloaded today were screeching and all that crap in them :angry:

[[B][O][T]]

New thread about screeching music files here (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=84327).

This one is closed from now.

Thanks,
BOT