Sct disabled. Help?

[Brandon]

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I came here to read this with a fresh state of mine, completely non-objective to all parties involved in the discussion, and no chosen side to fight for. And now here I sit writing this, wondering why you are still fighting, wondering what exactly the cause you are claiming to be defending has to do this thread. If I'm missing something, please point it out to me, because in all honesty I've read over each post here three times, from start to finish, and there is no logical cause here worth, that could even come close to being worth as much as the combined hours you have to devoted to actively both defacing and defending.

Well as of now, I'm only defending myself as this has turned into a topic against me which really isn't how it should have gone.

What you did earlier on for the OP, if I was a soldier I would say it was commendable and my support would be there, but on the other if I was your commanding officer, you would have been immediately reprimanded for your actions while could compromise your team. I'll elaborate on this, just as Josef Stalin said it himself, "One mans death is a tragedy, but the death of a million men a statistic". This simply means while for the lesser picture what you did made a difference, my problem is this. The bigger picture is the one where your vigiliante like behaviour is no longer based on pure good intent.

Perhaps you have a point. But unfortunately my kindness, as well as my faith tends to get the best of me sometimes. Some people use their position in this world to benefit themselves. Some use it to help others. It's just who I am.

You have an army of puppets here, ready to flame others at will, ready to fight for whatever you say is worth fighting for, its just a shame they speak like they are packing MP5s, but what they forgot to tell you was, they aren't ready to go down in your name.

Sad thing is, this has turned into a fight that goes against what the original battle consisted of, if there even was a battle.

Ask yourself this question Brandon, Which is more important,

a) the respect and love from a bunch of puppets that I know for a fact you wouldn't be able to tell me anything more about than I can clearly see in front of me.


b) the respect and loyalty of your real friends, the ones who have the balls to step up to you and tell you honestly that "you need to stop acting like a damn fool in public places, you need to really drop this bullshit once and for all, its not healthy, and most importantly WHAT SCT DOES WITHIN SCT'S SITE IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM, stop devoting so much damn time you constantly point out at every opportunity to many people you apparently don't have with all your study commitments. From one friend to another, drop this whole ftn is better than sct drama. It's one thing competing for fun for the best pre-times, I'm all for that, just don't make it personal, you have a bad habit of doing that. It's not personal, therefore don't let your emotions dictate your actions.

2. I will say again that I never said FTN was better.

I don't know if you have noticed, but the reason Feeling isn't defending himself has nothing to do with you're apparent paranoid beliefs he has something to hide. He isn't defending himself to your outrageous claims simply because in this particular scenario, there can be no victory no matter how he plays it out. He doesn't care what the users here think of him and his site, and therefore he has no reason to justify wasting his time defending himself. For this he gets my respect. So if my respect and the respect of the people that are important to me, and therefore should be important to you is worth anything, please take the advice of a friend and follow suit.

I never said he had anything to hide really.. I only stated what was in clear view to me. My claims really aren't that outrageous btw. I wasn't the one saying they were buying Ferarri's or such like some claimed I did.

I expect you to be offended, even hurt by me stepping out in public and saying this. I've tried my best to stay non-objective. If you feel that in my posting this, you believe I have some kind of unresolved beef or problem with you, don't even bother telling me in private, because I can tell you right now anything more I will have to say on the matter, will cut deep.

Offended.. maybe a bit. This would have been better suited in PM, but again that's just my opinion. I'm not hurt though, I find this whole argument silly myself. It was blown way out of context from my original intent.

I honestly was never going to use this account here to post on this place, but after having people come to me asking "what the f**k is going on with all this FST warring with you and SCT", and me having no prior knowledge of this till this evening past. I then knew, everything i've ever said to you within the confines our friendship, that you have ensured me you understood and that you clearly realised certain mistakes that you have made (you are only human). Now after reading this thread Brandon, the only thing I can say is I'm disappointed in you, first for your public display of such childish behaviour and clear disregard for people you claim of importance to you. Second, in relation to the first, not only do your actions here reflect your ability as a leader, but how they also reflect on your team (your friends). If you find anything I've said here selfish reread and rethink it. I'm not going to stand by and let you make any more of an ass of yourself than you clearly have on this thread.

Here is where you lost my respect (I'm only being honest with you b/c you're a friend). I'm not sure if you're only including me in that paragraph because you care about me, or what.. But I can guarantee I wasn't the one being overly childish.
You're correct about my actions reflecting me as a leader. As you'll notice, I'm a fighter. I won't give up until I have no more strength in my body left to move. I've never been able to quit anything that I've set my mind on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's a key quality in a leader.

Back the fuq up, forget about this place, start showing the people you say you care about, that they can depend on you just like you depend on them when shit hits the fan. You've got some damn shit hot people standing behind you, so if not for yourself, but for the FTN you were a founder of, you have devoted so much time to, and still claim that your heart belongs to, don't fuq this one up. Whatever you need say the word and we'll make it so, but you need to say it, and you need to stop leaving a trail of destruction everywhere you go. Running away using your studies as a reason you are not completely there, or you are absent for extended periods, is such a childish act.

Whoa.. Don't even begin to tell me that putting my studies before FTN is wrong because you'll be way out of line on that one. My future comes before anything. I'll stand by FTN for as long as I can, even when it involves staying up pretty late or even full nights because I don't have enough time in the day to accomplish both. You can ask c0mrade all about it, it's usually the only time we're both around at the same time.

We've discussed the shit on your mind, and I gave you word I'd cut you some slack, but look Brandon, if you want to be cut slack, quit this bullshit between you and Feeling, shake hands and accept that you both have different ideals, but you are neither far from different, worlds apart, but you both share similar motivations and both share similar long term goals.

You're able to write such an informative post, yet you fail to see which of the two of us needs to be the one extending the hand. I've even apologized for any misunderstandings against my intentions.. All I've seen from the other person is attacks.

While you're at it, if you care for Kimii as much as you clearly pointed out throughout this thread, and that most importantly I know you do. Be happy for her, and for her decisions, if doing what she is doing makes her happy, respect that decision even if you don't completely agree with it. If you want to be her friend, be a friend don't get in her way, don't get in his way, let them live their lives, and fate decide the rest. You are not fate, therefore you shouldn't be the one deciding what is best for her, trust her judgement. I know I do, and I have my reasons, so if you can't trust her judgement, at least trust mine.

I am happy for her. You wouldn't know this, but the day I told her I didn't want to talk to her again I sent her a text msg saying I was glad she was happy and that I forgave her for treating me the way she did. I also sent her a PM on FTN before that saying I hoped things worked out for her and wished her luck.
Don't get me wrong, I was all for being her friend. But Feeling decided to give her the belief that I lied about certain things without profo in order to turn her against me (i dont see what other reason he could have) so don't always assume you know everything about the situation. Only reason I no longer wanted to be kimii's friend was because she lied in plain sight to me. The same thing I was accused of.

[fazzy07]

I hope that the outcome of all this is both parties shake hands
And ScT removes the ratios

Brandon I will hire you for my dads law firm any day.

[redcorvette]

I hope that the outcome of all this is both parties shake hands
And ScT removes the ratios

Brandon I will hire you for my dads law firm any day.

plz join the argument. You should probably see taht he is only criticizing and not WARRING against sct.

well, it is kinda obvious in the early posts of brandon, but now taht he is being personally attacked, he either has no choice or he is not a man who can take too many hits!

//PS: Brandon, ask MM how many times i get punked >< and how many times i have retaliated!

[piratex]

lol fazzy ... will be cool if that happens

[Vagaz]

The reputation of ScT lays on the hands of the almighty FST users! How did we not see this coming! I'm gonna ask if we could allow invite trading, A.S.A.P

[Brandon]

and now i see some ppl from sct actually posting. but why are you guys posting against Brandon. I know he's criticizing sct and you know that too. Instead of brawling him out of the bar, why not show your /manly/ side in the very same bar? Not that i am trying to mock you, but merely asking you to reply to his criticism and not him!

That was partly my original intent.. I never even got a response to the suggestions/ideas I posted. Such as giving a free invite to every user.. It's almost as if everything good I say gets overlooked, yet anything I say to criticize gets flagged in red.

okay so you know he is wrong, but we dont. why dont you say something against it, not him. Well, if you merely made accounts here to watch the fun, we arent hearing your side of the argument, in ANY of these kind of threads. yea you say that Brandon rants in any "sct disabled" thread, tell me on thread where a persons' FTN got disabled for no pointless reason! hell you guys are being like BitMeTV, trying to be ruthless in who you chop the heads off just cuz his invitee's invitees were ratio cheaters. How is the original guy on the top of the invite tree supposed to know that the small fish were going to die??

I do agree with your point on that. Personally I think it is a bit harsh and unfair, but in their defense they can say they're just being cautious. (that's right sct, i'm defending you because I hate you.) (that was sarcasm btw.. about hating u..).

I completely understand Brandon's point of view. I have sct and i know it has a lot of potential even after being so good at what they do. If u guys wanna be the best, try to change something, tell us that you will change. There is no guidance in your posts Feeling. So i dont know who to side on, yours or Brandons (side on as in being against or for brandon's arguments and not him.) Hell, you could probably asuume that i am an ftn fanboy by the way i present my posts, but do you rather know that i have spent more time on sct than on ftn?? you didnt know taht. well the the question would remain: Why am i standing by brandon's side?? well, its kinda obvious. the other side of the argument is always constant. either they are tired of posting back or they know its a win-win situation for brandon (i am not implying anything by this; its only a chioces i assume to be on their mind).

I've made my side pretty apparent. I even offered my own ideas and suggestions on how to better the situation. If you think about it, me saying "hey guys, give a free invite to everyone.. that'll at least throw off the idea that you're trying to make money " is actually helping you. Perhaps that's why I find it so difficult to understand why I continue to be tagged as an sct hater when I've displayed multiple examples proving that wrong.

@Brandon
dude, i know you went through the loss of losing your friend. But never use it as an excuse EVER. unless you want to be bogged by your own excuse. If you do so, the person itself will attack you WITHOUT sympathy as in they would be thinking "thats what he gets for dragging me into this kind of shit" if u get my jist??

Losing a friend wasn't the tough part. It was having a friend betray me on multiple levels because of someone "claiming" (there was no proof) I was a liar over something that made complete sense that it was true. It made it even worse when that person could believe that claim without any doubt of the claim even being false. I've lost many friends over the years, it's common as people move away, etc.

Well, i see where you are going with these arguments Brandon, but its not how hard a hit you can take, but how hard before you try to hit back. You see they are trying to make a fool of you by saying you dont have enough education. People who know you well, know how educated you are. dont digress away from the main argument due to these little hilly-billies! I myself am not an expert at english, but i do know that they are derisively (haha i just figured out this word a few minutes ago) attacking you. Dont try to hit back at them...its always how long and how many can you take them before you be like them.

Agreed.

I know it hurts, but its always better for oneself. It used to happen to me until i stopped caring what they said about me and started caring if they said anything bad about my family. That is one thing I WILL NOT TOLERATE no matter who it be (my best friend or my worst enemy). I know i digress with all this talk, but isnt this what we all are seeing here right now?? i mean i see personal attacks flying everywhere and me going under them and trying to help them be "sorted out"

You have to understand though. My image is very important to me because FTN reflects on it. As a leader, I have to defend myself in order to defend those who look up to me. I agree that it's wrong to fight with violence, but it's cowardly to walk away without a fight at all. I won't attack others without good reason, but I will defend myself and what I stand for at all costs.

I have a lot of respect for you redcorvette. Not because you stand by me when others don't, but because you don't automatically make assumptions or stand by something not because you believe in it, but because you it's what your friends are doing.

I'm not going to make any more posts in here which could be used to fuel the fire some of you wish to keep going. Talk all the trash you want if that's what really makes you satisfied. I said my peace, even clarified some misinterpretations that were taken from my posts. As stated, as well as discussed with Kavselj in private, my intentions might not always be what they seem. Don't look past the other obvious pieces in the puzzle. Re-read this thread again and you'll notice that I said good things about sct more than once. So to claim that I hate it based on posts you saw from a pathetic person who used my name against me when I've made that situation very clear, as well as totally contradicted your assumptions and accusations by openly stating that I don't hate sct as well as saying positive things about it(as well as things I don't agree with). Trust me. If I hate something, I'll just say I hate it.. Do I really look like the person to hide or deny what I feel about something..

@vagaz: You're absolutely right, it doesn't. It wouldn't be appropriate to talk about the topic anywhere else (obviously) so it's stupid to attack someone for expressing their views about it here.

[Vagaz]

You're more than welcome to come discuss this on the sct forums. Just get the fuck off this newbass mother fucking public forum you dumb shit.

Jesus.

[celtic]

You're more than welcome to come discuss this on the sct forums. Just get the fuck off this newbass mother fucking public tracker you dumb shit.

Jesus.

What public tracker ? You mean public forum ? a forum that isnt ruled by nazis ?

yeah thought so...

[seanbee]

I couldn't even read this thread through. Some maturity really needs to be exercised. Most times I am on FST I feel I am watching a soap opera

[selggiwtpc]

Ok.

1. You don't need to defend yourself here, the puppets here are just puppets, what they think of you doesn't matter, get that into your head, the only people you need to justify and defend yourself to are your friends, the people who clearly want an end to this bs.

2. Kindness or not, you did a good thing, know in your heart you did. Feeling doesn't give anything out here because he doesn't want to / need to / have to. Here in lies no obligation, food for thought.

3. This turned into a fight because you made an SCT problem a Brandon problem, now I jumped in because im making a Brandon making an SCT problem my problem. Lets walk away with our dignity, so what we lost a battle, our lives will still go on, we've got more important things to attend to.

4. Stop trying to be neutral, FTN is better in both mine and your eyes, why do you think we both put so much of the time we don't have into it. Neither of us have a stake in SCT, so it really has no relevance which site we feel is better. I respect the SCT staff for doing what they do, at least for what i value of importance in their work.

5. If he bought a ferrari with the money from there, I'd fly to his country and take him out for a beer.

6. I can't help the offense, sure it better suited pm, but I felt I had no choice but to make a statement as a friend. Ok so you clearly see that this thread is going nowhere, what does that tell you about the end result?

7. I'll say something i've said to you before again, you talk about losing respect for me, fine, I don't need your respect if its something you can so easily throw around like a tennis ball. But that doesn't change the fact I still respect you, why because no matter how much sometimes I repeat myself to you and it still doesn't click, and you frustrate me with the things you do. Its part of friendship, we don't have to see everything eye to eye, and we never will, you have your shortcomings, i mine. Its obvious you don't really understand what respect is, besides a word you can find in the dictionary between the letters Q and S. We can discuss this in private, for the sake of this discussion, I don't care whether you do or you don't, the only thing that matters is this shit must stop. A good leader knows when a battle is lost, he will retreat his army, rest and use his experience to better his opponent. This is a lost battle, stop trying to win it, you are wasting your time, and sticking it through doesn't make u the bigger man, or the stronger man, it just makes u foolish and careless.


8. Obviously we both understand your future comes first, but my point is and I clearly expressed it, manage your time better. You don't need to be here defending FTN and P2P, we don't need anybody to defend us, especially to these puppets. What they think and their opinions of us, are meaningless. Say what you will, but you know deep down I speak the truth.


9. You fail to see I don't care which of the two you should be extending which hand. What do expect from them, you hijack a thread about SCT, lay claims against the site and their staff, and then say "HUH I R NOT TEH BAD GUY". You can apologize as many times as you like, it doesn't change the fact you did it. They are defending themselves, just like you clearly are, the problem here I see is, you fail to understand that you can't go around doing what ever the hell you please, and then thinking later "oh shit maybe that was wrong maybe I shouldnt have said it or done it". Can you not clearly see that this type of behaviour can't be solved with "Im Sorry Im an Ass". Sure if you did it once, I'm sure you would find everybody understanding about it. You are a repeat offender, you do this all the time, your friends tolerate it because they are friends. The SCT guys don't have to accept any apologies from your side, the point is you attacked them in a thread addressing them, you were wrong, saying you're sorry then doing the same thing again shows the insincerity of your apology. 19 Pages and still going, still quoting, drop this, drop the whole FST hero bit, FST aren't your people. You know where your home is, and your family is, so get the hell back there.


10. Yeah yeah, but you still feel you need to write a paragraph about it, so you obviously read what it wrote, felt you needed to explain to everybody how it all went down. It doesn't matter how it went down, and it doesn't matter who you think is right and wrong. There is only thing here left to say. Until you can turn back time, self reassurance and finger pointing isnt going to CHANGE the fact its over. You aren't happy for either of them, do you understand why? Because even after saying what I said, you still feel the need to explain why you are the victim, and how Feeling and Kim were actually in cahoots with each other, and they have been conspiring against you all along, just to break your heart. If they can move on, so can you. Let go of whatever it is you're grasping at. If you want to be that friend you claim to be, stop injecting yourself into their affairs. Right or wrong? It's not for you to decide. Which side Kim should take? Again thats her choice. You only have once choice to make in this better, and thats to do the right thing. Stop complicating it for yourself.