Should Acct trades be allowed here?

[Lew]

Hell No!!!1

[fatcat69]

Big NO

Fo shizzle.

Get ride of the traders and this place will form a tighter relationship with trackers staff.

Seeing how most want to see this place burn to the ground...I think we should work on that ..

[Prilost]

Yes!

[DyNast]

No, that's just don't fair... and not only that, that also a big cause of accounts hijacking

[jasperr]

well, i've read one post that said no but, if ya need something in a hurry....... that doesn't make any sense.. first off, no one NEEDS a tracker.. secondly, if you cant get into a tracker.. then there must be a reason for it and you don't need to be there ..

as my thoughts on the subject.... read my sig!

[fatcat69]

So after I posted my response to the poll, I read through the entire thread and have a few more additional comments.

To the person who said trading is the only way:

I have been torrenting for maybe 3 months (outside of filelist), and have gotten into every site or been offered an invite to every site and turned it down.

As someone pointed out, if you just be a nice person and make friends, it will get to the point where you turn down invites because you won't use the accounts.

If you are active and a good person, people will notice. If you just browse the names in the irc of the "top level" trackers, you will see users who are at everyone, and youll also notice that the staff of everysite is on every other site.

To address the person who thinks trading wont hurt you:

It will, you will be branded as a trader if you are found to be one. I know plenty of sites that share information, personally I have shared information between 4 sites at a high level when I find out that there is a trader in the mists. Every staffer (or ex staffer) or person who cares about the tracker has a relationship with other staff at other trackers. Nearly any of the staff at your high level trackers know who eachother are, if not talk to each other on a daily basis.

Ex: One trader got busted at iTS, within a day he lost his accounts at NB, ScT, ScL, RevTT, and all his info was sent to other high level trackers so they could block his browsing ip's.

So if you honestly think that trading at one site won't get you kicked off another...you got a big thing coming.


To the person who thinks that you cant get into "high level" trackers by not trading...

do what i said above...just be friendly and meet people. There are numerous members here at FST that are staff, or are close enough to staff to get you into any tracker on the planet. Seriously, you can get into any tracker from fst at the moment without trading. Stoi gave me a bcg account without me begging for it in a thread, just because I had in my sig that I was into games. I got into FTN and FSC without asking at all for them, someone who I met here at fst pm'd me and happened to be friends with the sysops on both sites and hooked me up. I barely download off the sites, but I am very active in the forums and irc.(I also upload to contribute and meet requests) I got offered F*** and turned it down for the time being because I have what I need. Same with U*-*. I was offered Swedvdr and turned it down as well as I wouldnt use it. All of this, just by being active on sites and helping users whenever they needed help.

People who trade, either are very anti-social, or that is how they were taught this torrenting game worked...and they can't kick the habit as everyone knows them as a trader and doesnt trust them. I trust them though, if a trader came to me and gave me their word they wouldn't trade an account, Id give them an account. Of course, if they traded it, Id find out in two seconds and would be sure that all their info is sent to every single staffer, because they betrayed my trust. Hell I have invited 3 known account traders to one particular tracker and they have actually turned out to be very active members and helped the tracker develop and grow. I really think they are sincere enough to not want to trade their account because they actually care about the community so much now.

Just one thing: Don't want a tracker just to have it for bragging rights or because it is a high level. What makes FSC---FSC is the fact that the people on there all get along and know eachother from other trackers or in real life. If you arent a social person, you honestly will have absolutely no need for FSC. Same goes for iTS. Both of those communities are communities due to their membership, not because they have the fastest releases or the most seedboxes, thats actually the opposite of what they strive for. These are just two prominent examples but nearly every tracker you can say the same for.

If you think that there is anything different between any of the 0days besides pretimes, then someone is feeding you bullsh*t. If you have SCC or ScT, dont be a fool and trade them. I can safely say, that if all you are looking for is to download, then you are at the right places. These are the two best 0day's...not one person will dispute that.

I am sick of seeing people just want something because it is a higher level. You will be so disappointed once you get into sites if you are solely looking to download. Get specialty sites (BCG for games, HDbits for hd, tv.torrents.ro for tv (if you dont use 0day already), SCC and ScT for 0day, TTi for dvds, TL and Revtt for everything, music sites for music etc etc. (just letme know when there is a cooking tracker and IM THERE!) lol

Seriously for downloading...those are the sites to have for their respective things.

To the person who said FST is just for trading or once everyone gets the trackers they want they leave FST:

No. If that was the case, none of the staffers or sysops (just see the ones posting in this thread shows how much they care about FST, even if they say they dont :-P ) would be here. I wouldn't be posting tutorials whenever someone asks for one, I wouldn't be here, Artemis and Sgt.Major definitely wouldn't be here....lots of veteran users wouldn't. So the fact that these people are here, is proof that FST has a lot more going for it outside of trading that takes place here. Why do you think its called the invite section and not the trading section?

To anyone who has been voting down the posts when someone votes yes for trading:

...cmon quit the sh*t. Everyone's opinion matters, you dont have to agree with them,but atleast show some respect and dont be voting their post down just because they said "I am for account trading"


To further explain my vote instead of a "traders suck" comment

I believe that trading once existed and was common practice to get into trackers. However, I believe that the community (bt community) as a whole is evolving to the point where quality actually means something. Users and staffer's are becoming more aware of their communities and look for valuable members every day. Trading was when you just downloaded and didnt say anything in the forums or irc, but now people are talking to each other, getting to know one another, and therefore developing relationships in order to improve the trackers they are on.

This constant strive for improvement, causes the membership to work together as a whole to reach the goal. Members who help, are rewarded with satisfaction that they did something to make this place better. Trackers improve, user quality improves...everyone is happy.

I feel that with this principle of actually contributing to your tracker instead of using it like a whore on a street corner, is a concept that has been evolving the membership here at FST to the point where trading will be a thing of the past and who you are and how you treat people is what will get you into trackers. Not, who has the biggest upload speed.

[Sawyer2020]

well with me it not make different but also this you shouldn't ask here for that
its comes from this Community rules itself not ask for users opinions
anyway I'm against accounts trading

[puckface]

So after I posted my response to the poll, I read through the entire thread and have a few more additional comments.

To the person who said trading is the only way:

I have been torrenting for maybe 3 months (outside of filelist), and have gotten into every site or been offered an invite to every site and turned it down.

Im not saying youre wrong. But maybe the reason you were offered all those invites is that you pretty much run a freakin tracker and people wanna kiss your ass.

Just a possibility isnt it? I guess other peoples points are.. what about regular people who dont?

Once again, Im not saying youre wrong.

[mamacita]

Im not saying youre wrong. But maybe the reason you were offered all those invites is that you pretty much run a freakin tracker and people wanna kiss your ass.

Just a possibility isnt it? I guess other peoples points are.. what about regular people who dont?

Once again, Im not saying youre wrong.

Well, I'm one of those people who "don't."

I'm not an owner, sysop or mod of any tracker or forum and I've gotten everything I've asked for so far. A lot of it is about how you present yourself. All I do is ask nicely and show that I'm truly interested in a tracker.

Now, I've never had someone offer me an invite without asking, like fatcat, but that hasn't stopped me. Just be active and helpful, like the fact cat says.

[iNSOMNiA]

I say we do as we always do: If the Com Rep cooperates with FST and wants acc trading to be forbidden for his site then be it.