Public Giveaway's, Trading Invites

[anto]

i agree even doh i don't have 50+ rep points i have been given invites to site's and i keep up my ratio

this has nothing to do with ratio

ok scrape the ratio part

[SAM]

This debate can go for ever but i guess instead of bitching about trading and public giveaways.I guess we should do something about it.
now.
i'll give you an example here
let's say Tudor is a good user and don't trade and will contribute to any tracker if he will become a member in it.
Now Tudor wanted to get in BCG but Tudor has no friends that can give him invites and Tudor is a good use and doesn't trade.
Tudor thought and though then he found out he couldn't get in.Why?
Cause only Elite members there have invites and he doesn't know any so he came here and FST.He made a search and found Stoj's giveaway thread.
Now he has the chance.now we give him hope
but let's say there is no such giveaway this means he will never get in.
so is giving Tudor a chance or a hope is a bad thing.should we deprive people from such chance?
Now stoj did the right thing when he made this giveaways since then people who trading BCG are less than there were in the past.
why?cause he closed the way to traders and open another way for people who want to get in.
They can request and he can choose.If all trackers do the same thing.There will be no need for public giveaways by members.
but most of them don't.
only FTN,FSC,BCG,NB,ITS and at last SCT That make such a thing but the rest don't and they don't even care so the normal user or any member won't care either.Why should he?.
Slogans and principles are not for showing off.They are for practice.
So let's clean them and do some action.

[stoi]

the problem is, members think, why should i be resposible for the invitee, and then they are up in arms when a tracker bans them for inviting 5 cheaters or traders in a row.

I wonder how many members here can look back on all their trackers, at all their invite trees, and remember who each and everyone is, and where you got them from.

I bet not many, and i bet a lot of the inviters, invite and then never speak to the invitee again.

Well thats not community, its like getting invited to a party by someone, you get there and they ignore you all night, and your sitting there on your tod looking around sheepishly.

Inviters should take a lot more notice of their invitees imo, guide them into the community, introduce them to the community even, make the first move, this will give the invitee the confidence to get involved, and not think he has just been left out to dry.

but the above will never happen now, more is the pitty. Invites are like currency, or an e-penis extension, its only an invite for christ sake and its only a tracker, wether its lvl 1 or lvl 10 its still just a poxy tracker for bittorrent.

[anto]

the problem is, members think, why should i be resposible for the invitee, and then they are up in arms when a tracker bans them for inviting 5 cheaters or traders in a row.

I wonder how many members here can look back on all their trackers, at all their invite trees, and remember who each and everyone is, and where you got them from.

I bet not many, and i bet a lot of the inviters, invite and then never speak to the invitee again.

Well thats not community, its like getting invited to a party by someone, you get there and they ignore you all night, and your sitting there on your tod looking around sheepishly.

Inviters should take a lot more notice of their invitees imo, guide them into the community, introduce them to the community even, make the first move, this will give the invitee the confidence to get involved, and not think he has just been left out to dry.

but the above will never happen now, more is the pitty. Invites are like currency, or an e-penis extension, its only an invite for christ sake and its only a tracker, wether its lvl 1 or lvl 10 its still just a poxy tracker for bittorrent.

i agree plus i keep track of anyone i invite to trackers. not bosting

[danio]

I used to make public giveaways here at FST, but once i tasted the bitterness of losing accounts for making a mistake and inviting a bad user (dupe accounts on FST to hide your trading activities sucks ). Since then i handpick users i feel that i can trust and that i think will be good users on a site, and handle it in PM. That method is a lot safer, and you don't risk being perceived as a publicity whore.

[ananthsmys]

Hi

Scrap the Levels and rep points . One more thing that should be
scraped is the users showing torrent userbars in thier signature.
If u are member Of a X, Y andZ site so what.

Terminating the levels will minimize the number of people running
after trackers for levels.

Secondly by scrapping Rep Points people will not do a giveaway only for
reps. People will do a giveaway only if it is necessary.

Third point please ask all the users to remove the userbars.

One Last Point . This is the one of the best threads I have read on FST .

[Nemrod]

I don´t think both things are the same, but I do think both things are bad.
Trading is about greed.
Giveaways it has to do more with being irresponsible.

[soulreaper]

I don´t think both things are the same, but I do think both things are bad.
Trading is about greed.
Giveaways it has to do more with being irresponsible.

With a rep point system,giveaways can also be looked at from the same bad angle as one looks at trading IMO.

[J-dye]

so the trackers that open signups like torrentbytes which allow total strangers to signup in their site are real dumb noobs ?

oooh the security . but they are still running without any anti piracy agency fucking it up

ffs its just a torrent site . so its better to invite a dumbfuck noob you know in the real life than someone you trust online who you are sure of having bittorrent knowledge ?

[stoi]

well from our POV.

if i was bothered about security, we wouldnt have 45,000 members or have had 320,000 members through our doors since Dec 2006.

the problem is we have had 320,000 members through our doors since Dec 2006 and we only have 45,000 members.

this means the 275,000 members, either cheated, traded, scammed, leeched, didnt like it, didnt know how we worked, just left etc etc.

and why should we keep opening, if 99% of the members we get in just dont care, all they want to do is get in and cheat or just not be a good member, and if they do get banned, they think, oh well i will just resign up and do it again.

and we dont have invites because they still need recoding, but we have that many changes and other things on the drawing board, its hard to find the time to do anything atm.