What Trackers Are Worth [With Reviews and Ratings]

[GhostRetired19]

pi***y open signup !

[1000possibleclaws]

pretorians must go down to Level 2 or 1

Signup Open

it's only open for people from the native country

[alwyn]

pretorians must go down to Level 2 or 1

Signup Open

it's only open for people from the native country

I signed up without any probs :)

[GhostRetired19]

pi***y must go down to lvl 2

signup open!!!

[houssam]

pi***y must go down to lvl 2

signup open!!!


yes signup open for a long time +++1

[WTAW]

Level 2 ••••••••••
Leechbits[5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent-invites-section/t-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-142446/page212#post1874020)

Its has new name "RUSHBiTS" and the url is rushbits.org
The Leechbits name & url is no longer in use.



can someone make a new review for this tracker?

[GhostRetired19]

Level 2 ••••••••••
Leechbits[5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent-invites-section/t-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-142446/page212#post1874020)

Its has new name "RUSHBiTS" and the url is rushbits.org
The Leechbits name & url is no longer in use.



can someone make a new review for this tracker?

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-post2854363/postcount249

[NPAX1]

I believe SCC should go from 9 to 10.

Pre-times are excellent, speed is even greater (I hit at least 7mb/s on every new torrent). And with the free leech mp3/0day section (and the newly free leech archive section), it is easy to remain a productive member with a decent ratio.

Although I think SCC should move from 9 to 10, I believe it should remain at Level 3, since invites are so abundant at this moment (and you can donate for more).

[Punk]

i think that TT must be at lvl 8 or 9 its very hard to get an invite

[metanaboll112]

i think that TT must be at lvl 8 or 9 its very hard to get an invite

yeah right! TT should be 8lvl cuz now it has Registered users 7877/8000 and noone have an invite :< propably staff will not open invite requesting for another few months, also iTS na SCL should go up in lvl (from 5 to 6) cuz its realllly hard to get invite out there :

[Punk]

i think that TT must be at lvl 8 or 9 its very hard to get an invite

yeah right! TT should be 8lvl cuz now it has Registered users 7877/8000 and noone have an invite :< propably staff will not open invite requesting for another few months, also iTS na SCL should go up in lvl (from 5 to 6) cuz its realllly hard to get invite out there :

yaaaa i am also with u that SCL + ITS must go up

[metanaboll112]

so TT/iTS/SCL +1 in lvl :yes:

[jukesta]

I think TL should go up.

Not many invites floating around, and people want to this site since its so amazing.

[tX]

I think TL should go up.

Not many invites floating around, and people want to this site since its so amazing.

yup, it seems like they're only giving invites to VIPs now

[colombianino]

I think TL should go up.

Not many invites floating around, and people want to this site since its so amazing.

yup, it seems like they're only giving invites to VIPs now

not quite, they became pay-per-invite. :((which will get u vip stats for ~2 months i think). their invites are reachable, but not everyone can or will pay for the invite.

[metanaboll112]

TL should stay but iTS/SCL/TT 1 level up ;]

[potcave]

bH should go up with 1 level at least... yesterday the invite-rules changed, so it's more difficult to get an invite now.

[mariangili]

iplay must go up!No place left,invites ar useless!

[jukesta]

bH should go up with 1 level at least... yesterday the invite-rules changed, so it's more difficult to get an invite now.

i don't think it should go up any way because people do not like want it for there life like they want some sites

[potcave]

bH should go up with 1 level at least... yesterday the invite-rules changed, so it's more difficult to get an invite now.

i don't think it should go up any way because people do not like want it for there life like they want some sites

Okay, but... I think levels depend on that how hard to get in a site. And now getting in bitHU is not just hard, it's very, very hard.

[metanaboll112]

who agree with me that iTS/SCL/TT should goes up in lvl's put hand up

[predateur]

ScL go down, open for signup

[Georgo Smart]

who agree with me that iTS/SCL/TT should goes up in lvl's put hand up

I am not sure about SCL now :D

[Punk]

i think now that the only must go up are TT and ITS

[koolyt]

puretna is open for signups so should be level 1 instead of 2, no?

[lovejj]

scl
should go down to lvl4

[predateur]

scl
should go down to lvl4

no, level 2 is the right level now

[ZoorBa]

scl
should go down to lvl4

no, level 2 is the right level now

i think you can't enter it :naughty:

[1000possibleclaws]

scl
should go down to lvl4

no, level 2 is the right level now

it didn't open up for that many people, and now that it's closed it's not any easier to get into

[pone44]

yeah try to find a invite or signup now. Pisexy has been open for a month-should be level 1! TVT.ro also was open ( a few times in the month) and ranked level 3????? Backwards. I stopped reading this. lol

[WTAW]

The thread has gone through a significant edit. Basically got rid of level 8 and then split level 9 into including level 8. It doesn't mean FtN and FSC are any easier to get into, it just means that the level structure is slightly altered.

Keep in mind that the rating (ie [10] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../../p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2438830/postcount8823) v. [6] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../../p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2438830/postcount8823)) is often a better tool determining usefulness than the level.

Feel free to suggest changes in rating because they are still being tweaked.
Keep in mind that you must state WHY when suggesting any change in this thread, or else you will be ignored.

[RedRansom]

WTAW (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/wtaw-188455) Firstly Thank you look like right
Keep in mind that the rating (ie [10] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../../p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2438830/postcount8823) v. [6] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../../p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2438830/postcount8823)) is often a better tool determining usefulness than the level. this is realy usefeul but I dont agree with PTN:dry: especially PTN [7] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../../p-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-post2843937/postcount246) for 7

[WTAW]

Feel free to suggest changes in rating because they are still being tweaked.
Keep in mind that you must state WHY when suggesting any change in this thread, or else you will be ignored.

@red ransom, and everyone else ^^

[Simulador]

i must say i agree with all the changes :D

somebody out there understands what i'm saying...

[metanaboll112]

guys wtf ? TT and iTS up, scl down (1lvl)

[bakkouka]

Why SCL down?
It was actually open for sign up just for a total of 23 minutes to get an extra 600 members, that's all.
Now it's closed with only 2500 members. Can anybody get in it now?

[KennyX]

iTS down to level 3. Same reasons as when I posted in the previous thread.

Invites are available to people who are active members on any one of several other torrent and torrent related sites. They are actively recruiting. It is easy for members to get invites with the fairly low upload amount to become a PU being all that is required. Lots of spaces are still available. The only reason to keep it as high as level three is that the new members, excluding all the disabled accounts, are only about a hundred per month. As an aside, this is more new members than S*T which has remained between 18,500 and 19,000 members for almost a year now.

Bt-Arg and Snowtigers to level two as they both open signups when a user is disabled.



A more general point about the rating of sites: almost all of them should be reduced, most reduced a lot. Most people fail to realize that it is supposed to be a combination of content, speeds and pre-times (where pre's are applicable).



Karagarga is still at [9]

You claim ratings are based on content and speed, so until ScT gets Ovoce Stromu Rajskych Jime up on their tracker, Karagarga should be [10]

Lets take KG as an example, as it was mentioned on page 13. It might well have some unusual content (give it a ten as it has twenty four thousand active torrents) but its speeds are very poor (subjectively two?), pre's are not really relevant here so this should give it a rating of six. Why six? Well ten plus two is twelve and then divide it by two to get a rating of six.

I dont think it needs me to defend it, but S*T speeds are the highest and its content is over twenty two thousand torrents: ratings of ten in both areas, combine this with great pre's give an overall rating of ten. To answer kojin, once 'Ovoce stromu rajskych jime AKA Fruit of Paradise' has a pre-time then it will be on S*T!

I know stoi is looking for some constructive criticism on BC, well the pre's (where applicable, for me it is on PC games) could be much better. Lets change the rating of BC from ten to seven: content is ten, speeds are five and pre's are six ([10+5+6]/3=7). As an example, to get ratio on BC I downloaded 'stuff' from another site and waited for it to be uploaded to BC to seed it just to become a SPU.



I believe SCC should go from 9 to 10.

Pre-times are excellent, speed is even greater (I hit at least 7mb/s on every new torrent). And with the free leech mp3/0day section (and the newly free leech archive section), it is easy to remain a productive member with a decent ratio.

Although I think SCC should move from 9 to 10, I believe it should remain at Level 3, since invites are so abundant at this moment (and you can donate for more).

I would disagree slightly with this assessment regarding rating. SCC deserves a rating of eight. It is a touch below S*T in speeds (I have seen some pretty amazing speeds on S*T) and pre's, say nine in both, but the content, with under 5000 torrents, deserves a far lower score of about five. A combined total of twenty-three, divided by three would equal a rating of eight for SCC.


I am still concerned that many sites, take iTS for example, are vastly over rated in all three categories: speed two (they have an unusual rule which limits seeders and as a result speeds), content three (under 2000 active torrents) and pre's two (they suck big time in my opinion). I use iTS as it is the best example of an over rated tracker under this FST rating system but please note that this is not intended as an unfounded criticism of iTS, and I can and will justify it with stats from iTS if required.


One thing that occurs to me as I write this is that there is no objective standard for measuring speed, content or pre-time's. Perhaps a method for calculating these would be useful?


Many people mention the level of difficulty in getting invites as a reason for increasing level but if we accept this premise then should trackers with no invites and no new signups become level ten? I am thinking of filelist, the level three site, as an example with no new peeps at all.


Please note: I have used equal weighting in the speed, content and pre-time's when I was reassessing tracker ratings as I think they should have equal weight.

[stoi]

I know BCG pre-times are not great, but our speeds are (on most torrents).

I downloaded 3 PC games the other week, all at the same time,and they had been on the tracker for 16 months each.

I got 800KBs on 1, 600KBs on another and 400KBs on the last one.

thats 1800KBs over 3 torrents. my max download is 20meg, which is about 1800KBs.

Ok, im not naive to think that every single game that is on the tracker will go at that speed, but then i doubt the last torrent on browse on a 0 day tracker, would go very fast either.

and we cant win, we get complaints that downloads are to fast, as we have to many seedbox users, so normal users (yes we do allow members that do not have a seedbox, unlike 0 day sites) cannot get their ratios up. and then you give us a 5 for speed, wtf.

edit:

and how do you know the speeds are 5, if you download from elsewhere and seed on BCG.?

Edit 2:

In all honesty, i do not think we deserve a 10 either, this is why i brought up the idea of the table last month.

10 for content yes.

6-7 for pres, but then if you can do better, apply for Uploader.

8 for speed.

[WTAW]

thanks for someone finally stepping forward and giving criticism on the ratings KennyX. Unfortunately I can't agree with you on most points. The ratings system isn't an addition formula on those 3 criteria, that wouldn't make sense because not every trackers purpose is to have fast pretimes (or pretimes at all for that matter), and not every tracker's goal is to maintain retention over long periods of time (ie most of the 0day trackers). KG is high BECAUSE of it's content and retention. BCG is high for the same reasons. You can get almost any game you want there, even if it's from the 90's, and if it's not on the site someone will most likely fill your request. I'm not a member of iTS so if that went down I would need some feedback seeing as the review is very outdated.

It's good that you've brought this up. Over the past week or so a lot of the ratings have gone down, and it's gonna be an ongoing process over the next couple weeks till it's all pretty much agreeable. If you want to argue that a rating should go up, a good updated review proving it would be more convincing than only posting here. If you want something to go down then a review would be nice but not necessary. I'm basing it on the current review, or if I'm a member then by the current stats.

[maverick_andy]

Its sad to see FTN and FSC @ 8th:(

[KennyX]

WTAW (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/wtaw-188455), I posted this because too many trackers seem to have ratings that are subjectively very high and seem unjustified. Too many trackers have ratings of seven to ten without, and this is my opinion, scoring above five on any one of content, speed or pre's.


I agree that different trackers should be rated using the most appropriate criteria but in this case what should they be?
edit: from the first page it seems that all trackers ratings should be judged solely as stated below:

Tracker Ratings

Trackers have ratings from 1 to 10 in the [#] tags.
This is based on Content and Speed and Pre-Times.


"Content and Speed and Pre-Times" for all zero day trackers still seems appropriate, but for "dedicated trackers" lets have different criteria then (and make sure people know about it by changing the first page).

Content seems to be most important for dedicated trackers, but measured using raw torrent numbers or quality? Is request ability, and how many fills, important? Retention and content for non-0 day trackers then?


I would have liked some objective criteria to measure these ratings by mainly to remove the 'x tracker must be 8 because it is better than y tracker at 7', based on some noobs very subjective opinion. Of course far worse is the 'tracker x +1 level' with nothing to substantiate it...


stoi (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/stoi-438), the ratings you suggest are fine with me but some of the new torrents uploaded are very slow. Taking an example from today, the wii game 'Players choice T4...', it is 4gb and uploaded seven hours ago with no completions. It is the variability of speed that made me assess BC speed so low.


A few responses to stoi's post.
and how do you know the speeds are 5, if you download from elsewhere and seed on BCG.?
-because I download from BC as well, this was to reflect that not all new torrents on BC are equally fast. The speeds you quote for old torrents are impressive but I have downloaded some new torrents with one seeder at 30kB and some old torrents at 4kB. This is not a problem for me as the torrents all complete which is the one of the most essential things for me in a torrent site.

In all honesty, i do not think we deserve a 10 either, this is why i brought up the idea of the table last month.
-Lets not kid ourselves, BC gets a ten from me and from almost everyone who knows anything about torrent sites (BC is a must have for all serious gamers), but this was a point made to show how the current ratings are skewed based upon the three subjective (and I will keep saying subjective) criteria that are supposed to apply to all trackers based on the FST rating system. BC does not deserve a ten based on the FST ratings but to put it in context most sites deserve rankings below five.

6-7 for pres, but then if you can do better, apply for Uploader.
-Compared to what? How do you measure it? What is the average pre on BC, and how does it compare to other sites? I cant do better but the question is more is BC good where pre's are concerned and and can it do better?

This is the problem as i see it: you think a six or seven rating, I do not and we have problems quantifying who is correct. As an example, if we use this as an objective measurement 'if a site has an average pre of over an hour but less than three hours then it should get a five rating' we have something that can be measured and agreed upon by all. We can work out the average pre on BC, over a specific time period, and use it to get an agreed upon rating. BC's pre's might be 'between fifty minutes and an hour' for six, or 'forty minutes to 49:59 minutes' to get a seven.

8 for speed.
-Again difficult for us to assess without some objective measurement and statistics to fall back on. How and what do we compare BC to to get the eight rating?

[stoi]

Well i cant compare it to anything, because, well im not a member of anywhere else.

But you have to remember, If your a PU you can apply to be an uploader on BCG, we dont have any silly rule where you must have a Seedbox with a gigabyte connection to be an uploader.

So of course some uploaders own rips, like the one you mentioned, are going to be slow.

But then if we stipulated that every uploader needed a seedbox, we would never ever see that game on BCG, or he would go and upload it elsewhere.

But faster seed = harder to get a ratio of over 1, unless you have a seedbox yourself, slower uploader, = piece of piss to get a ratio of above 1 even if you have a relatively slow upload.

this is why i do not understand members that sometimes are users, saying i will wait for more seeders on a release before they start to download it, they will never get a good ratio that way. and people are far to impatient these days.

Ok if a 6gig game is going at 2 KBs for the life your downloading it, i would probably get pissed off and look elsewhere, or report the torrent (we have got a report torrent function you can use you know). But if its going at 30-60KBs and there is only the original uploader, but a good amount of leechers, i would be thinking, Increase ratio time here.

but in your oppinion, no tracker would deserve a 10, because i think ease of use (how easy is it to keep a ratio without a seedbox) should be factored into it, and most 0 day trackers would get a 1 for that lol

But like i mentioned this is why i brought up the table idea, i dont think its that far back in this thread, and has been quoted as well, so you cant really miss it. this will be a lot better imo than 1 number that tells how good a tracker is.

But they are not going to use it for this thread for some reason, oh well i tried lol

K will quote it for you so you dont have to look.



Fav : Name : Seeds : Leechers: Members : Torrents: Pre : Rarity : Speed : Content : Community : Usage: Open : Overall : Type : Updated

Fav = Favicon pic
Name = tracker name linked to review
Seeds = Seeds
Leechers = Leechers
Members = Members
Torrent = # of alive torrents on the tracker
Pre = Pre Time # from 1-10 or even a % out of 100 if you want (same for the ones below)
Rarity = how hard it is to get in, but again, you can scrap this for me.
Speed = Speed when you download from the tracker
Content = Number of torrents, and Quality of the torrents
Community = how active are the forums, and the torrent comments
Usage = how easy it is to keep a ratio easy/medium/hard
Open = Like i said in my previous post
Overall = overall rating maybe this one could be out of 100%
Type = 0day/games/ebooks/movie etc etc
Updated = just the date it was updated by whomever updates it.

You could also have the columns sortable as well but that might take javascript which imnot sure you can do in a forum thread.

I will probably come up with more columns later, but that will do for now lol

and you could add staff in there somewhere as well lol cheers for the poster above me who mentioned that.

[1000possibleclaws]

KennyX what you're describing seems like a description of the WTO thread

[GhostRetired19]

tvtorrents[8] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post1856689/postcount1904)

+1 = [9] :)

[NPAX1]

I don't understand how TL could have a 10 rating while SCC has a 9.

TL pretimes are a lot slower than SCC, and SCC has better speeds on most torrents. SCC also has an archive section with freeleech, and a growing number of packs.

[colombianino]

I don't understand how TL could have a 10 rating while SCC has a 9.

TL pretimes are a lot slower than SCC, and SCC has better speeds on most torrents. SCC also has an archive section with freeleech, and a growing number of packs.

content and speed, also the fact that they have old torrents active as hell. that's why mate ;). TL's da Beazt :P

[fatcat69]

Level 5

ScL[8] iTS[6]


Level 8

FTN[9]

Level 9

FSC[10]


Level Changes explained:

Simple, FTN gave a bunch of invites (as in hundreds) out the past month if they stay 8, then by logic FSC goes up one.

FSC...no invites...in 7 months, maybe 30 new users in that time period per admin account creation?

Bracket changes:

FTN--although they do have a few uploaders and their own dedicated 1gbs box uploading to the site...content wise they are still a mile behind ScT. They get stuff slower, have less seeders, dont have a request section.

FSC--Has one of the most active request sections and has more dedicated uploaders who meet requests then anywhere else. Simple as that, if you are looking for something and cant find it, they will find it.

iTS--Although active, content has gone down over the past month due to uploaders leaving. Speeds are down, users arent that active anymore.

ScL--very active uploading group, fast speeds, numerous seeders due to peer count expanding and users up to 2500.


Cheers.

[Mister Moo]

FSC...no invites...in 7 months, maybe 30 new users in that time period per admin account creation?



fsc invites have been around and were only stripped very recently. I had 4 invites there until just last week and I am not staff or Elite or VIP

[PRINCE]

Level 5

ScL[8] iTS[6]


Level 8

FTN[9]

Level 9

FSC[10]


Level Changes explained:

Simple, FTN gave a bunch of invites (as in hundreds) out the past month if they stay 8, then by logic FSC goes up one.

FSC...no invites...in 7 months, maybe 30 new users in that time period per admin account creation?

Bracket changes:

FTN--although they do have a few uploaders and their own dedicated 1gbs box uploading to the site...content wise they are still a mile behind ScT. They get stuff slower, have less seeders, dont have a request section.

FSC--Has one of the most active request sections and has more dedicated uploaders who meet requests then anywhere else. Simple as that, if you are looking for something and cant find it, they will find it.

iTS--Although active, content has gone down over the past month due to uploaders leaving. Speeds are down, users arent that active anymore.

ScL--very active uploading group, fast speeds, numerous seeders due to peer count expanding and users up to 2500.


Cheers.

about ITS
i dont agree with you about contant
site very good about contant and great speed
see the packs in this site to know uploaders leaving site or not

[Convectuoso]

MBT[5]
This "5" is ridiculous, tbh. MBT has unique rare content in best possible quality, that will never be uploaded on waffles or what.cd, or any other place. Only because of the content MBT deserves at least [7]. Look, shitty (imo imo) filemp3 has also [5]. what's up?
Also, MBT is rather active (average ~10 peers per user, ~5-6 torrents per user, which is great for 1200 userbase). So, i claim MBT deserves [7]. at least.

[happy]

TS Tracker should go lvl 2 or 3... they have lots of invites and is so easy to get acc.. you can think that the sign up is open...btw the signup was open and lots of new users sign up... so lvl3 for ts is fair if you check the others tracker on this level

[fatcat69]

FSC...no invites...in 7 months, maybe 30 new users in that time period per admin account creation?



fsc invites have been around and were only stripped very recently. I had 4 invites there until just last week and I am not staff or Elite or VIP

You had invites but couldnt use em lol...check forums, invites were disabled in jan.

I have like 100 invites to hdbits.org, but when its full, people cant get in...same thing.

Just bc you have em doesnt mean you can use em.:whistling


@ the iTS comments

Just having packs does not make a site have good variety. And yes a bunch of uploaders have left, I just spent 20 minutes updating the "welcome new uploaders" thread on the site...there are 8 left.

0day is basically non existent aside from one of the staff members and 2 uploaders uploading when they have free time.

Content is down, just look at the new torrents added daily. We used to do about 30-40 a day...now maybe 10-20...on a good day:pinch:

trust me, i know the current status of uploading at iTS...im the oldest active uploader there lol.

[robotpirate]

why are uploaders leaving iTS?

[fatcat69]

why are uploaders leaving iTS?

bc some dont have the patience nor the space to seed something for 3 days and have noone downloading.

If you are pu or higher, get invites and get more people at the site...bc 1600 users...with only like 600 active...is just sucky.:cry:

[1000possibleclaws]

same situation with GFT except there's no lack of uploaders. over 100 ups since Weeds dropped last night :P none of them have more than 1 snatch..

[colombianino]

packs seem to be active there, i don't like to run peoples patience out with my 32kb/s up speed :S

but i might............

[Mister Moo]

fsc invites have been around and were only stripped very recently. I had 4 invites there until just last week and I am not staff or Elite or VIP

You had invites but couldnt use em lol...check forums, invites were disabled in jan.



hey banana6986, you are still pretty new over there (22 weeks) anyways, some of the older members had invites that were active until last week. (I know this because I invited one of my buddies to the site last week) anyways no point arguing about this here with all the tradernoobs.

[lsw0794]

why the box.bz quality is L-10?
it's speed is so bad

[binocular]

why the box.bz quality is L-10?
it's speed is so bad


You shouldn't judge by its speed alone, dude.
Everybody knows that theBOX has a great content of British stuff which u could hardly find on another tracker.

[dragos]

You had invites but couldnt use em lol...check forums, invites were disabled in jan.



hey banana6986, you are still pretty new over there (22 weeks) anyways, some of the older members had invites that were active until last week. (I know this because I invited one of my buddies to the site last week) anyways no point arguing about this here with all the tradernoobs.

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-fsc-282729/page3#post2710462


]You have to remember, users that had invites prior to them 'closing' invites, can still use them. So its not just staff inviting people, if they even are, I dont know how you can know who invited some one, since the site doesn't tell you that...

Response:


False. Invites are COMPLETELY CLOSED. It may seem like people have invites but they can not be used. So any1 offering invites is lying.
;)

now are you sure you weren't dreaming that you invited your friend ?

[FileZ]

i think no one care about this thread , after most of FST members become Non-traders

[LoKaLiRi]

i think no one care about this thread , after most of FST members become Non-traders

there's some traders :ghey: who care about it

[FileZ]

i think no one care about this thread , after most of FST members become Non-traders

there's some traders :ghey: who care about it

In the fact ONLY one care about this lvls anti-traders couz they are collectors :whistling

[1000possibleclaws]

there's some traders :ghey: who care about it

In the fact ONLY one care about this lvls anti-traders couz they are collectors :whistling


yeah that's actually so true.. lol

[Mister Moo]

hey banana6986, you are still pretty new over there (22 weeks) anyways, some of the older members had invites that were active until last week. (I know this because I invited one of my buddies to the site last week) anyways no point arguing about this here with all the tradernoobs.

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-fsc-282729/page3#post2710462


]You have to remember, users that had invites prior to them 'closing' invites, can still use them. So its not just staff inviting people, if they even are, I dont know how you can know who invited some one, since the site doesn't tell you that...

Response:


False. Invites are COMPLETELY CLOSED. It may seem like people have invites but they can not be used. So any1 offering invites is lying.
;)

now are you sure you weren't dreaming that you invited your friend ?

yea I'm sure, if you pm me I will send you the link to the guy I invited on site

[colombianino]

read sig :P VV

[naikon]

iTS, TT, Elektronik level up and SCL one lvl down

[kite]

SCL one level down and Its one level up

[C-mos]

who cares about levels these days ?:)

[volkan_1985]

ITS should go up one or two level. 'Cause of the uploading rule and freeleech. They deserve a better level.

[sert]

ITS should go up one or two level. 'Cause of the uploading rule and freeleech. They deserve a better level.

its not a matter of what they deserve, the levels are depending on offer and demand.

[robi92]

wheres ipwn ?

[Ali-g]

I think all sites should go one lvl up. hahaha. who cares. anyway y does this thread has ONLY 21 pages?

[fatcat69]

I think all sites should go one lvl up. hahaha. who cares. anyway y does this thread has ONLY 21 pages?

go to your settings and have it show more posts per page...i only see 3 pages;)

[robotpirate]

i see 11 pages :)

[colombianino]

it used to be over 1k :P

[Ali-g]

Wow theres a huge hole in this thread...

U go from 14.12.06 on page 5 to 20.05.08 on page 6.... Thats 1 year and a half gone... Anyone knows y is that?

[Piasta69]

PT higher , scL down,

[Tastas]

When will be iPwn in the list ?

[bRoonXZ]

yeah PT must be level 6 and TL lvl 4

and SCL lvl 3

[1000possibleclaws]

When will be iPwn in the list ?

someone needs to make a proper review, then it will be added. The only one that exists is merged with an ipod tracker

[Alessandro]

HDBits should be lvl4.

[HiDef]

Why are these BitMe[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2477585/postcount171) - KaraGarga[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2393332/postcount8408) - Waffles[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2390114/postcount8374) - What[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2390067/postcount8373) at 9. shouldnt they be at 10. is there a tracker that has more then they do?

[ConkiZz]

Why are these BitMe[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2477585/postcount171) - KaraGarga[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2393332/postcount8408) - Waffles[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2390114/postcount8374) - What[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2390067/postcount8373) at 9. shouldnt they be at 10. is there a tracker that has more then they do?
They also count in speed, and pre-times and content etc. So it's not only because they are the only trackers in the category.

[robi92]

Why are these BitMe[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-tracker-reviews-post2477585/postcount171) - KaraGarga[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2393332/postcount8408) - Waffles[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2390114/postcount8374) - What[9] (http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-trackers-worth-with-reviews-and-ratings-post2390067/postcount8373) at 9. shouldnt they be at 10. is there a tracker that has more then they do?
They also count in speed, and pre-times and content etc. So it's not only because they are the only trackers in the category.

yes +1

expect kargarga

mos of torrents have 1-2 seeders ..

i added ipwn review

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-256067/page26#post2873624

[Horatiu]

i added ipwn review

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-256067/page26#post2873624

That's not a review, those are just some silly screenshots.

[ConkiZz]

i added ipwn review

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-256067/page26#post2873624

That's not a review, those are just some silly screenshots.
indeed, a review should have some text that describes the tracker, how many members, torrents, peers, speeds, community - how the tracker is.

[colombianino]

true, you forgot about the writing, otherwise they are silly screen shots :P (lawl i lov how those 2 words together sound).

ps: should i try out for a review? my finger's messed up though, so i don;t feel like typing today, tomorrow if someone else hasn't :)

[binocular]

Sad to say, both BrokenStones and ViPv2 have gone...
Should be removed from the list :cry1:

[lovejj]

hdbits up to 4 lvl

[robotpirate]

TB[8] to [7]

not many tv/xvids get uploaded compared to other scene trackers...

[OTO]

IMHO TL must be lvl4.

[ConkiZz]

IMHO TL must be lvl4.
nah, its a good tracker but to be lvl 4 it must be harder to obtain.
Just look how many invites a day is given away in the invite section.

[kondrae]

scc is not the same lvl as Demonoid. i think scc needs to be moved back to lvl 3 and a couple 'hard to obtain' lvl 3's moved to lvl4.

[ConkiZz]

scc is not the same lvl as Demonoid. i think scc needs to be moved back to lvl 3 and a couple 'hard to obtain' lvl 3's moved to lvl4.
What trackers do u think of?

[kondrae]

^^like hdbits, revTT, tl, TR, dvdclub.

a lot of trackers go in between 2 and 3. instead of making a 2.5, scale it so hard to obtain lvl 2(like scc, bithq, christian torrents) move up to 3, hard to obtain lvl3 (like hdbits, revTT, tl, TR, dvdclub) move to 4, and so on.

lvl 2 is way to broad!

[kite]

i think scc must move to level 3 or abopve because its has great speed and also a great 0-day tracker so scc should go to level 3 or 4

[MasterP]

i think scc must move to level 3 or abopve because its has great speed and also a great 0-day tracker so scc should go to level 3 or 4This topic is rating sites from level 1 to 10 based on rarity

1 being the easiest to get into a site and 10 the hardest.
This has nothing to do with contents of the trackers.
Ratings of trackers themselves are in the [#] tags.

[fOrUmAs]

IMHO TL must be lvl4.

i agree on that

TL deserve to be at least lvl 4

[nikita]

Tl is lvl 4 just because they don't allow giveaway...lol

[ConkiZz]

It's a few trackers that don't allow GA's.. what.cd doesn't.. i got a invite ban..

[nikita]

but what have few invites, i think

[ConkiZz]

but what have few invites, i think
What.cd have many invites.. PU's and above with good ratio, get 5 invites/month..

[yevgeny]

scc should be level 3 (10) imo
content is excellent. (especially with free leech archive.)
pretime is up there with the best arguably.
speed is excellent
a touch underated me thinks.

[bilkenter]

agreed, at least level 3 :P they are goooood

[nikita]

ahhh ok, both must be lvl 3 by their rarity, i think.

[h1ronakamura]

scc level 3
RevTT level 4
TL level 4
what u say?

[yevgeny]

every site above level 3 is difficult to get into. how difficult comes down to who you know and how lucky you are. i don't think rev/tl should move, just SCC. it must be a nightmare figuring this shit out.

[bilkenter]

nope not difficult at all, if u have good friends, you can get all of them at once iplay,scl,thors land, bithuman etc etc

edit: dont ever ask for it, and dont ever see it as a tracker, then you get polish tracker and all others except the ones i dont wanna be in ftn included

[ConkiZz]

bilkenter - You have a wierd thinking.. but hey, u never know..

[bilkenter]

well this is how i got them, i didnt ask for them, my friends ask me whether you want to get in or not, that is it, the more you ask to your friend, the more you are seen to benefit from this friendship... I wouldnt like such a friend either, just get good friends

[lovejj]

lvl3 is very hard to up lvl4
but lvl4 is very easy go down
now i see a lot of invs give out in iplay,m8 next time is to let iplay go down:)
mv should go down too,because their admin is giving away inv
again hdbits should go lvl4

[SkullForce]

Why SCL still in lvl 5 ?!!!!!
it opened signups so manytimes for long period. this is not fair and i think iTS should go 1 lvl up.

[WTAW]

^^like hdbits, revTT, tl, TR, dvdclub.

a lot of trackers go in between 2 and 3. instead of making a 2.5, scale it so hard to obtain lvl 2(like scc, bithq, christian torrents) move up to 3, hard to obtain lvl3 (like hdbits, revTT, tl, TR, dvdclub) move to 4, and so on.

lvl 2 is way to broad!

That's a possibility, although the difference in the lower levels really isn't much. Right now level 9 is broken into 8-9. Combining those back into 9 and moving everything else up 1 could work. Would splitting everything in level 2 into the 'invite only trackers' and the 'sometimes openreg' trackers be more helpful or really matter that much?

[lovejj]

scl should go lvl3 no doubt
member from 2000(? canot sure) increase 3000 now
open twice,maybe more next time lol

[davide89]

ScL -> level4
and content should be [9] in my opinion
has much better content and speeds like iTS

[h1ronakamura]

why isn't ifi listed?

[naikon]

cuz noone knows ifi and it hasnt any review :P

[h1ronakamura]

that isn't true dude, just look at the invite section every couple of hours is there a thread offering ifi invites

[kondrae]

Would splitting everything in level 2 into the 'invite only trackers' and the 'sometimes openreg' trackers be more helpful or really matter that much?

that's would be helpful. maybe a * or another symbol next to those trackers. Splitting into more sections would make it complex. i like to 1-10 layout

[KennyX]

Moving all the sites under level nine up by a level is not the ideal solution. I don't like the idea of 1/2's (or asterisk's) though, and thought this was one of the reasons for moving away from the level 1-5 scale that was used before.

Move all the sometimes, or often, open registration trackers into level 1; all the permanently open for signups into a new level 0, since they are not really in the level system. This splits them up without disturbing the higher level trackers.



^^like hdbits, revTT, tl, TR, dvdclub.

a lot of trackers go in between 2 and 3. instead of making a 2.5, scale it so hard to obtain lvl 2(like scc, bithq, christian torrents) move up to 3, hard to obtain lvl3 (like hdbits, revTT, tl, TR, dvdclub) move to 4, and so on.

lvl 2 is way to broad!

Bithq is open signups one day a month so there is no chance it should be level three. RevTT and TDC are easy to get as new PU's get invites.

However, a lot of the level three sites have strong arguments for going up a level: HDBits has no invites just now and high demand, Filelist no invites ever, Snowtigers replaces about one user a day, PeerPortal very few invites (still dont think this should even be a level three site though and am surprised that it started there), and for BTMusic I have seen people trade S*T to get it. Some have arguments for being moved down: TTi has lots of invites available and it is very easy to get more (user limit problem though), what and to a slightly lesser extent waffles can be very easily picked up. Even SCC has too many invites floating around.


"lvl 2 is way to broad!", yes because getting into them very easy. A lot of these trackers have one or more of these conditions:
massive numbers of users with invites, like IPT
massive number of invites, like TD
very easy to get invites (20 karma=3 invites sort of thing), like loads of them.
recently open for mass signups, like TvT.ro
Recently closed, like bitnation.
no one wants/cares about them (as most of them are considered poor relative to higher level sites in peoples opinion), and this is the most common reason.

They do not deserve a higher level.


ScL: level 2 as it has opened signups yet again. has it doubled its membership in the last few weeks? New rule idea, if a site opens signups for 500 or more users it automatically moves down to level 2 if above it?



scc level 3
RevTT level 4
TL level 4
what u say?

SCC, loads of invites available, so I think level three is good. Possibly reduce it.

TL, maybe, I know some people still have many invites but they have no intention of using them, I think this one needs serious consideration for moving up to level four. On the other hand at least fifty new VIP's per month equals 200 new invites added every month.

RevTT, loads of invites available and every invitee gets two more at PU, so should stay at level three.


lovejj (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../../members/lovejj-199815), have to agree that IPlay should be considered for down a level as there seem to be a lot of invites available and many are being given away.


Start ifi at level two.


edit: just noticed the missing posts are back.

edit: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-invites-90/t-10-tti-invites-giveaway-302328/? can I have asked for more support for TTi to level two?

[fOrUmAs]

Why SCL still in lvl 5 ?!!!!!
it opened signups so manytimes for long period. this is not fair and i think iTS should go 1 lvl up.

because no one cares anymore

this list is dead for long time now IMO:)

[stroj]

Yeah, ppl cant have their epeens any bigger so they gave up.

[stoi]

Everyone knows by now, i hate this thread.

But why is it called What Trackers Are Worth. when its actually, How hard it is to get in.

What trackers are worth means to me.

What you have to pay to get into them, or what you have to trade at the very least, and that includes accounts.

This goes against the whole premise of P2P and bittorrent in general.

Its like all trackers going.

only way you can download a torrent on a tracker, is if you offer something in return (and not just BW), until you do that, then all torrents are offlimits. and 1 torrent = you get 1 torent to download.

Now im sure if every tracker done that, there would be outcry, but this WTAW thread seems to get away with the same principle.

We are here to share, not trade and pay for stuff.

[bilkenter]

Also stoi, the more they label them as level 5 level 6 level 8, the more people struggle to get into them since they are seen to be best. People are greedy after all

[SgtMajor]

Why SCL still in lvl 5 ?!!!!!
it opened signups so manytimes for long period. this is not fair and i think iTS should go 1 lvl up.

because no one cares anymore

this list is dead for long time now IMO:)

That's probably the best post you've ever made here, /fact.

[lovejj]

i think ppl will do better in high lvl
high lvl mean ppl will appreciate the tracket

[bilkenter]

not at all, i have met someone recently who cheated on ftn via ratio cheating... People dont appreciate it, i am sure people who dont have it will be much more valuable than him

[stoi]

i think ppl will do better in high lvl
high lvl mean ppl will appreciate the tracket

Why is that though?

because of this stupid thread.

BCG is level 2, but we are far from crap, and are probably better (even though im not a member of any, and im not rubbishing other trackers) than some lvl 5-10 trackers.

no one cares about lvl 1 trackers, but if they closed their doors, no invites, nothing, in 2 years they will be lvl 5-6, but they still have the same members and content as before.

its a load of crap.

[bilkenter]

agreed on it, people say ftn or fsc are the great ones. But the funny thing, they havent even seen what is in there...From what i heard, it isnt the best for everyone...some people may appreciate it, some dont... Level means nothing actually... At least mostly it is all about what you need... and where you find it For e****, i heard that it is great for old music and so forth... I am not into old music at all, therefore, even if it is level 20 it doesnt matter at all...

[yevgeny]

good to know e is good for old music. cheers bilkenter..

[kondrae]

since ftn lost all its torrents should it still have a content rating of [10]. i dont have ftn so i dont know what the deal is now...

[OTO]

Last edited by WTAW; 07-06-08 at 10:58 AM.
hmm.

[Shalafi]

I think FTN [10] should drop to 7 for the time till they come back.They have 200 torrents for now.

[robotpirate]

I think FTN [10] should drop to 7 for the time till they come back.They have 200 torrents for now.

well that's quite generous...

[-AdY-]

iPwn music must be level 3-4

[Horatiu]

iPwn music must be level 3-4

Or what? :huh:

[stoi]

BCG just opened the doors for 11,000+ members, we must go down the lvl 1 now surely :shifty:

[lovejj]

yesbcg go down lvl1,no one will trade low lvl tracketand plz allowed free emailsuch gmail

[colombianino]

yesbcg go down lvl1,no one will trade low lvl tracketand plz allowed free emailsuch gmail

you could ask nicely, and he doesn't want people trading their accounts. it was at some time a lvl 4 tracker and no one complained.....:dry:.

[stoi]

i think you will be surprised, there will always be people that trade it, and other suckers that trade for it.

1st and formost we are opening because we need more members, even with 50,000 members it wasnt enough.

2nd and about a 1% reason for me doing it was.

I am pig sick of people saying, OH NOES!! it a level 4-10 tracker, you should respect it more, and i gave up all my lvl 1-2 trackers once i got into the higher level trackers.

We are exactly the same tracker as before, same content everything, only difference is, we have more members than before (which must be a good thing mus`nt it?). So its to prove that this thread is pointless and for newer members not to be taking in by the hype.

i know it wont do jack shit though, FST will never get rid of it, never change it, and new users will still be clamouring all over the high level trackers, but it makes me feel as if i have done my bit to rubbish this thread, and for members to see if for what it actually is.

A LOAD OF CRAP!!!!

[1000possibleclaws]

i think you will be surprised, there will always be people that trade it, and other suckers that trade for it.

1st and formost we are opening because we need more members, even with 50,000 members it wasnt enough.

2nd and about a 1% reason for me doing it was.

I am pig sick of people saying, OH NOES!! it a level 4-10 tracker, you should respect it more, and i gave up all my lvl 1-2 trackers once i got into the higher level trackers.

We are exactly the same tracker as before, same content everything, only difference is, we have more members than before (which must be a good thing mus`nt it?). So its to prove that this thread is pointless and for newer members not to be taking in by the hype.

i know it wont do jack shit though, FST will never get rid of it, never change it, and new users will still be clamouring all over the high level trackers, but it makes me feel as if i have done my bit to rubbish this thread, and for members to see if for what it actually is.

A LOAD OF CRAP!!!!


I really hope the major gaming companies won't decide to gang up and file a lawsuit in the near future, with bcg growing big and fast, and safe havens like canada tightening down and setting up new copyright laws. Wasn't trading frowned upon in the beginning because it was a breach to the sites security? Opening up does not accomplish a fix for that

[stoi]

No we closed up because of the cheats and dupes and the signing up and selling the accounts, it had nothing to do with security.

We just got sick of it tbh and we didnt have invites, because they didnt work, and invites are not the answer anyway.

and that law in Canada has not been passed yet, and let hope it never will (it might but the chances are it wont, i hope lol)

[1000possibleclaws]

The bill that proposes making traveling with ipods a breach in copyright is ridiculous, and yeah I doubt it will be passed. Hopefully torrenting itself will remain legal at least for another few years, but with private trackers I doubt it would affect me personally very much. The isp traffic caps are the most annoying recent event up here for me. :dabs:

yeah i can see how selling accounts would be aggravating to admins and owners..

[colombianino]

The bill that proposes making traveling with ipods a breach in copyright is ridiculous, and yeah I doubt it will be passed. Hopefully torrenting itself will remain legal at least for another few years, but with private trackers I doubt it would affect me personally very much. The isp traffic caps are the most annoying recent event up here for me. :dabs:

yeah i can see how selling accounts would be aggravating to admins and owners..

what? thats insane, and banning the allmighty p2p protocol and bittorrent itself!?.

id say, we will revolutionize and create something new, something undetectable something that definitely has to be open source off course. it will be called the ephil protocol :yup:. but it could really happen, its exciting :naughty:

[naikon]

i think that TT should goes up, same iTS :)

[asoto]

i think that TT should goes up, same iTS :)

Fort TT maybe
But for iTS No. If you are PU(50 gb up)or above you can request an invite.

[onlinetragedy]

tt +1. been a user there for over 80 weeks, 200g+ buffer, still have never got a single invite.

bcg +1. i dont think invites are coming back for a good while =(

u lowered ftn's content but have not taken into consideration that far less ppl would want an invite there now (due to it being crap and all). ftn should at least be brought down to lvl 6.

my $.02

[stoi]

lol we just closed 2 hours ago, we have just taken 11,000 new members in 3 days, so i doubt that we will be going up anytime soon.

I am sure this has been asked before, or suggested anyway. but why not change this so the is the ranking and the rarity is the number.

that would be a lot fairer way of doing it imo, than the way it is now, because obviously my table idea is not going to happen, actually nothing is happening with this thread atm, may as well scrap it entirely (we can only hope).

So LVL 10 in the new system will be.

Blackcats [2] The Box [2] RevTT [3] TL [3] HDBits [3] SCT [5] TranceTrafic [7]

[onlinetragedy]

im such a loser. im a member at bcg and didnt even know signups were open again rofl

SHIT i woulda had my good friend thats been wanting in to sign up SHOOT ME!

[bilkenter]

Stoi is definitely right, we shall get rid of this levelling mentality both to give a chance to those who open new trackers, and to show that it is bul...As an example, there is a level 4th tracker called i...., anyway i think there are way better ones in the level 2 or level 3 that are way better than this level 4... Anyway, even if they get rid of it, things like this will appear on different site, i think rather than getting rid of it, making people aware of the fact, level dont usually mean nothing at all.

[asoto]

Excuse me but why is FTN ranked 6 ?

[F3n1x]

Ftn will have the old database back today, so will be a 10 again imo

[asoto]

Oh, ok thx for the info.

[Duckater]

sorry compared to other sites listed I do not think FTN is a 10 even with old db back in place 8 or 9 be right imho :)

[The Changer]

Is there chance of iPlay going up?

[Swift]

why ?

[bilkenter]

because he has iplay invite and gonna trade it with higher things if it is gone one level up most likely at least

[TheDog]

Is there chance of iPlay going up?
lol :D

[KennyX]

Is there chance of iPlay going up?

No. Is there chance of iPlay going down? Yes.

[kyind]

PTN is hard to get it is must me lvl4+ i think

[1000possibleclaws]

PTN is hard to get it is must me lvl4+ i think

Even if it goes up it will come back down again soon, b/c DC promised everyone an invite when the torrent count hits 1k. There's really no point moving it even IF it is 'level 4 rarity' atm, which is debatable.

[lostdemon]

PTN is hard to get it is must me lvl4+ i think

I saw them on Waffles being handed out to PU's so it's not hard at all. What does it matter what level a site is anyway?

[Gekko]

I just read through the list and I'm somewhat confused .. why is KaraGarga only a [9] on content? It must surely be moved up to [10] .. put it this way.

If a scene site, say SCC, died this very moment, yes it would be a loss, but the same scene content can be found on ScT, TL, ect. .. but KG dying would be a great loss ..

Same with MMA-Tracker, it's only a [7] in content (which confuses me..) where else can you find ~5500 fighting-related torrents?:lol:

[Duckater]

Have to agree with Gekko on mma-tracker, there is not another tracker that specialising in this form of torrent with any where near the content, including own rips and tv capping.
There are other sites that do mma but also include other sports yet do not have as many torrents in total as mma-tracker do just covering mma :)

[ConkiZz]

Have to agree with Gekko on mma-tracker, there is not another tracker that specialising in this form of torrent with any where near the content, including own rips and tv capping.
There are other sites that do mma but also include other sports yet do not have as many torrents in total as mma-tracker do just covering mma :)
It's not only about the content. It's about the speed and pre-times to. So i think it's the right rumbers they have, but i also agree that they are the only ones in that catagory, so they should have better ratings.

[punki_rach]

As sad as it is, brokenstones should be taken off the list don't ya think?

[cata2008]

as sad as it is, brokenstones should be taken off the list don't ya think?
+1

[Duckater]

Still trying to figure out mma-tracker having a low score pre times on scene releases has improved of late as well as the speeds on scene releases. But that is only a small part of there torrent base. How can some one judge on how quick stuff is uploaded when a lot of there own stuff is actually uploaded b4 a scene group does a release of an event. So does that not make there content deserver a higher mark. Or maybe some one with more knowledge of the mma torrent scene should check what othre sites that do a lot of mma are like then judge them

Sorry but trying to get me head around the rating system for non scene trackers here :)

[jukesta]

PTN is hard to get it is must me lvl4+ i think

Even if it goes up it will come back down again soon, b/c DC promised everyone an invite when the torrent count hits 1k. There's really no point moving it even IF it is 'level 4 rarity' atm, which is debatable.

yey for 24hrs.

[cata2008]

what is it with 24 hours?

[kondrae]

RevTT down one level. Open signups this weekend

[yevgeny]

RevTT down one level. Open signups this weekend

I agree. However they would likely bounce back anyway when signups close.

Vortex suggestion: Level 3 (7)

[ConkiZz]

RevTT down one level. Open signups this weekend

I agree. However they would likely bounce back anyway when signups close.

Vortex suggestion: Level 3 (7)
Vortex should be 3 and rating - 5.. not so much torrents there yet.

[robotpirate]

revott added 10,000 new members

[1000possibleclaws]

I agree. However they would likely bounce back anyway when signups close.

Vortex suggestion: Level 3 (7)
Vortex should be 3 and rating - 5.. not so much torrents there yet.

There needs to be a vortex review made before it can be added

[magushun]

karagarga should get 10 for content. its THE torrent site with content you cant get on the other 50 scene sites. it really deserves that

[naikon]

TT and iTS up

[Alessandro]

HDBits should go up.

[PRINCE]

iplay must be up
invites now very hard in this site

[KennyX]

TT and iTS up
Reasons?



HDBits should go up.
Reason?



iplay must be up
invites now very hard in this site
In what way? More detail please.




Have to agree with Gekko on mma-tracker, there is not another tracker that specialising in this form of torrent with any where near the content, including own rips and tv capping.
There are other sites that do mma but also include other sports yet do not have as many torrents in total as mma-tracker do just covering mma :)
It's not only about the content. It's about the speed and pre-times to. So i think it's the right rumbers they have, but i also agree that they are the only ones in that catagory, so they should have better ratings.

The last part concerns me '...only ones in that catagory' should not automatically lead to 'better ratings'.



revott added 10,000 new members
They also gave out invites to a lot of members so agree that level goes down to two.


TL: possibly down a level as they gave away an invite to PU's recently.

[lovejj]

lol
tt iplay may consider go down one lvl(but not right now)
so many inv come out to trade then before
hdb no doubt should go up 1lvl ,demond is strong,no inv for about one month,cant sure when will open inv again.and i dont think any lvl3 can compare with hdbits

[KennyX]

Lovejj, lol, those reasons of no invites and high demand, are enough for me!



...strong argument...up a level...HDBits has no invites just now and high demand.
As time passes I think the case for HDBits to move up a level gets stronger.

[turin]

http://piratebits.org/

has open signup, so I think it should move one level down

[aaatoel]

karagarga should get 10 for content. its THE torrent site with content you cant get on the other 50 scene sites. it really deserves that

+1 for this suggestion actually! I think it should get a 10! :)

[robotpirate]

well, it's not just about content. if it's quite fast, then maybe a [10].

[Krvaric]

Bithumen is a high rated tracker...right?

what's the deal with.......... seeding TL torrents on that tracker?

Not to mention BitmeTV 50% of their torrents come straight from usenet...they don't even alter the names of the files that got leeched from usenet.

[stoi]

well every 0day site, all their stuff comes from FTP first.

so hmm, where the hell does it matter where it comes from, as long as its out there.

and you will find its.

Scene FTP, 0 day sites, usenet/other trackers, Emule and stuff

thats usually the order. unless they have their own rippers that do everything.

[Krvaric]

well every 0day site, all their stuff comes from FTP first.

so hmm, where the hell does it matter where it comes from, as long as its out there.

and you will find its.

Scene FTP, 0 day sites, usenet/other trackers, Emule and stuff

thats usually the order. unless they have their own rippers that do everything.


I know how it works m8, but I didn't expect from a so called high rated tracker to seed torrents from another site nor usenet posts with the names of the usenet poster still on the torrent.

It's that I had a totally different picture about some trackers.

[Something Else]

It's the people in places like this that call them 'high rated'.
BT-Tracker are pretty far down the food chain unless they have their own rippers.

[KennyX]

ScT up a level at least

Demand remains exceptionally high. Number of new members being added remains very, very low: its still well under 19,000 members and has been for months.



I got an error when posting and then an Automerged Doublepost.

[naikon]

sct up a level at least

demand remains exceptionally high. Number of new members being added remains very, very low: Its still well under 19,000 members and has been for months.



I got an error when posting and then an automerged doublepost.

+1 :)

[garherd]

Yeah, Sct should definitely go up a notch or two. If I could choose only 1 private tracker to use, it would be Sct.

[naikon]

iTS level up cuz it have ~1800users and 5 moths ago was 200 less than now :P and its amazing hard to get in, noone give it away, also its hard to "trade in" good reason tu put iTS on 6LVL

[Loloq]

Polishtracker hard get to think and SCT,PT level 6 +SCT

[ConkiZz]

Polishtracker hard get to think and SCT,PT level 6 +SCT
Something like that.. + iTS up 1 lvl.

[jukesta]

YOu do rarely see PT invites floating around though, that is very true.

[bilkenter]

YOu do rarely see PT invites floating around though, that is very true.
Had Pt once, gave it to my friend, it isnt worth in my opinion though... I like bithumen way better, it has a style :D and the use of javascript is quite awesome on the site

Edit: I also luv santa, bithumen kinda gives ya a chilling feeling dunno why do

[KennyX]

I am sure that iTS has less members now than when I joined. All they have done in iTS though is remove the inactive accounts like they said they would. Inactive in this case being those who used iTS very little. The number of users went down as they pruned yet more people in this little purge earlier this month. It seems in the last five months that they are adding on average about five people a day and then pruning four for cheating, trading or inactivity.

The main problem with iTS going up a level is that they are still very actively recruiting. Its exceptionally easy to get an invite if you know how. (better clear my PM box again!) You dont have to trade your way in. If you are a good member in any one of several low level sites then you have a decent chance to possibly get an invite. Dont attempt it unless you are a good member there though.

I still think they should be moved down one level, possibly two, because invites are readily available and any PU or above can request as many as they want. You could say that even though demand is moderately high, supply is extreme. The problem seems to be that few invites are given away on public forums like FST due to rats.


Only problem with PT to level six is that even though supply is very limited (normally only VIP's and above), demand is practically non-existant.

[forthat]

i think desitorrents would get more rating because it is difficult to get that site....

[0riGiNaLBoX]

very good news

[Theory11]

btw ipwn died. can be removed now

[ConkiZz]

btw ipwn died. can be removed now
Dead? How? To little donations or did they get caught? :huh:

[Theory11]

um think owner shut it down, read BT section of FST

[guitarhero]

Today i checked the HDBits news and there`s a "sister tracker" with it. It`s called SDBits and i understood that only HDBits users can sign up atm. They are not open signup and don`t have invites, just for HDBits members :). I would suggest you guys to check it out and would be nice to see it on the list.

[xnugx]

um think owner shut it down, read BT section of FST

So glad I never donated... Was exciting at first, but it never gained substantial momentum. Said it was non-trading, invite only, then had public sign up and nobody cared. -_- Whatever.

[deadalive1]

Today i checked the HDBits news and there`s a "sister tracker" with it. It`s called SDBits and i understood that only HDBits users can sign up atm. They are not open signup and don`t have invites, just for HDBits members :). I would suggest you guys to check it out and would be nice to see it on the list.

This is not new news.

[nodzv]

regarding U$-$
someone should edit the description of this tracker cause in it ... you can see the trackers real name ;)

[RengeeTT]

TT should go down one level.
The reason is that invites were and still are handed out to power users and vips .

[jukesta]

prolly not for a while though.

just because they have been out for one day doesnt mean they will be out for a month.

[yayyyyyy]

TT should go down one level.
The reason is that invites were and still are handed out to power users and vips .

get ready for a shitload of "have TT, looking for ......." threads :naughty:

[stoi]

You re-word it to show that you dont have to trade to get into any tracker, and then you stick it in the traders forum. give me strength.

[KennyX]

Traders are more likely to need it so it seems a good place to put it. Why would anyone else care about what level a tracker is?

BMTV down as it is open signup.

[stoi]

well why does anyone need it. thats more the point.

because if they trade for it, they must want it, and if they want it they must know what it like, they cant just want it because its hard to get in surely [sarcasm]

[KennyX]

That's a tough question to answer in a few lines without getting into other issues.

Lets just say that many people want to trade and to help them some indication of relative tracker value is useful.

One of the purposes of this forum is to help people, so someone came up with this idea (or copied it). This list is also copied on about a dozen other places I have seen so, rightly or wrongly, it is here to stay.

[stoi]

Ok then, and i am going to turn this totally on its head here lol

Trading accounts is a no no, trading invites isnt so bad if both want the respective trackers to actually use them.

these are invites not accounts.

So member A wants Tracker B and Member B wants Tracker A.

But....

Tracker B is a lvl 1-4 tracker, Tracker A is a 7-10 tracker.

This thread basically says, hold on, your fecking crazy for doing that, and if anyone asks on this forum, they get told they are fecking crazy.

Does it really matter how hard it is to get into them, if both members want them to use them, whats the harm.

so this thread is pointless the way i see it.

[Kyl3KK]

Ok then, and i am going to turn this totally on its head here lol

Trading accounts is a no no, trading invites isnt so bad if both want the respective trackers to actually use them.

these are invites not accounts.

So member A wants Tracker B and Member B wants Tracker A.

But....

Tracker B is a lvl 1-4 tracker, Tracker A is a 7-10 tracker.

This thread basically says, hold on, your fecking crazy for doing that, and if anyone asks on this forum, they get told they are fecking crazy.

Does it really matter how hard it is to get into them, if both members want them to use them, whats the harm.

so this thread is pointless the way i see it.I usually don't do this but:

QFMFT. Stoi is a genius.

[jukesta]

offering more than one inv for just one inv is stoopid

trading is stooopiderr

[kondrae]

bitmetv down two levels, open signups

[lovejj]

cant believe it~~

[_asd_]

BMTV has added 3000 users since I signed up and might go as high as 6000 new users. Down to level two!

lol. added 3000 users, but I'm pretty sure few hundreads of them will be banned within the next week. Also BitmeTV used to have 23k users around Christmas and then it was still the same level :rolleyes: Since Christmas they have lost 3k users, so doesn't that mean that it should have gone up 2 levels or what? But now that they basically got back these 3k users they should go down to lvl 2. That's just idiotic ( as is this whole thread but I just couldnt resist to post.)

[KennyX]

Good points. I am not too sure that they lost members, more like they disabled them. They finally stopped at around four thousand members added and probably half them will be disabled shortly, but in a months time plenty will have made PU and will be here trading their invites.

The key words were 'open signup'. If you read all this thread I did say in a previous post that I thought that any site that opened signups to five hundred or more members should automatically go down to level two.

Its only been a few hours since I signed up and I have made 8gb upload of the 65gb needed. I expect plenty of others will be buffering accounts to get invites to trade.

[stoi]

well i would say 95% of trackers in the WTAW thread despise account trading and FST dont give a fuck

I remember when this was the k-lite forums, it was actually busier and more friendly than it is now.

and you bring up trading seedboxes RS acccounts, Usenet accounts, Money. they are all fucking wrong for every tracker.

And i have already brought in the argument why trading buffered accounts is wrong in another thread.

Rape the site clean with lots of hit and runs, and trade for another one.

I cant believe you stooped to bring that argument into it.

may as well just call this thread.

WYTIWCTOTAHMYCG (What Your Tracker Is Worth Comapared To Other Trackers And How Much You Can Get)

this is as bad as any site on the net that allows selling the things, because the price comes from this one thread. and im sure this is the original, if people follows this one, im sure if FST changed it, it wouldnt take long for others to change as well.

So your arguments are bollocks and FST is bollocks.

If i can have BCG taken off i want it taking off. because i did not give permision for it to be on in the first place.

I have just deleted our review, so i would like us removed and no more reviews for us put on here.

because without a review we cant be on, and i dont give permision, but oh wait there, FST dont give a fuck about that either.

and yes it is SPU and above only, and thats where members should get into other trackers from, on other trackers invite forums, not a free for all like FST ffs.

PS: I made the review to show members of FST what we were about when we were closed, not for the WTAW thread.

[Something Else]

I never post in this thread but I felt to because I agree with everything stoi just said. :mellow:

EDIT: That means +1 in the local lingo. :dry:

[F.B.I]

cant believe it~~

Cheaters/traders will not believe to when they get their accs disabled.

Idk why staff did this, just saw the news minutes ago but BitMeTV will be always the best TV Tracker.

[Raban]

BMTV has added 3000 users since I signed up and might go as high as 6000 new users. Down to level two!


comletely agree and i was also thinking it deserves level 2 now ...

they've had 100% open signups going allowing THOUSANDS upon thousands of new users to bumrush the site...

i'm not sure the exact #'s but its in the neighborhood of 6,000 to 7,000 new people ...

B.M.T.V == LEVEL 2

[nikita]

No, maintain his level, I am planning trade my dupe accounts, lowering his level will ruin my plans.
Shit.

[flamers]

I just have to ask, for example, if anyone here now would trade, for example they're hdbits acc for *higher level* bitmetv, assuming you like both content.

[F.B.I]

"Unlisted Trackers ••••••••••

iPwn[5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../p-bittorrent-tracker-reviews-post2873624/postcount251)"

Isn't it dead? I mean, was always dead but now seems that is a public announcement.

[kevinsert]

Bitmetv LEVEL2 yessss...why do they open signups hell..

[KennyX]

and you bring up trading seedboxes RS acccounts, Usenet accounts, Money. they are all fucking wrong for every tracker.

And i have already brought in the argument why trading buffered accounts is wrong in another thread.

Rape the site clean with lots of hit and runs, and trade for another one.

I cant believe you stooped to bring that argument into it.

I never made any arguments. All I did was point out that people on FST have offered to trade all sorts of stuff for accounts and people selling accounts on ebay or any of a dozen other sites is very common knowledge. Its simple supply and demand that determines value, and this is what you just dont seem to get.

Buffered accounts, this is your opinion and its sad that I have to point this out, but people who trade don't care what stoi thinks about this in any way. I would also argue, and this is an actual point of argument, that buffered accounts and HnR's are not related the way you think. I never saw the thread where you made this argument about this or I would have pointed out why I think you are wrong.



may as well just call this thread.

WYTIWCTOTAHMYCG (What Your Tracker Is Worth Comapared To Other Trackers And How Much You Can Get)

Or we could call it WTAW:IYDLITFO,ASSTT (what trackers are worth: if you dont like it then **** off, and stop spamming this thread). Its sort of ironic that I have seen an actual thread listing the cash value you can expect to pay for tracker invites.



So your arguments are bollocks and FST is bollocks.

So you think FST is bollocks? I dont think I have misquoted you so the obvious question is why are you still here?


Raban, I think you are right and it has been close to 7,000 people in to B.M.T.V in the open signups. B.M.T.V to level 2.

[stoi]

yes FSt is bollocks and its members like you that make it bollocks.

and i have just as much right to say things against this thread as you have sucking up to this thread, so no i wont stop spamming it untill they get rid of the fucking thing, happy now.

[Disme]

Don't let some of the FST users get to you stoi ... they aren't all like that.

[flamers]

Bitmetv LEVEL2 yessss...why do they open signups hell..

Sorry, but was it actually dropped down, 'cause I see its still 5 now, I really can't imagine leaving it at 5, or putting it back as such.

[KennyX]

yes FSt is bollocks and its members like you that make it bollocks.

:cry:



and i have just as much right to say things against this thread as you have sucking up to this thread, so no i wont stop spamming it untill they get rid of the fucking thing, happy now.

Indeed you do have the right, unless the forum mods think you are making unproductive posts in this thread of course. Anyway, happy spamming because the WTAW thread is here to stay.

[stoi]

you will see the light one of these days.

how many good members of trackers, join here, get carried away with the rep system, and this thread, and end up loosing all their accounts.

and then the trackers get blamed, sheesh, wake up its not the trackers fault.

[Something Else]

I can't see it happening any time soon, but maybe, just maybe some of you will realise that tracker staff like stoi and myself are actually trying to help you.
I can only speak for myself I suppose but I don't post advice in the BT section in an attempt to battle against anyone.

I genuinely take time out of helping you (The BT users) elsewhere to try and help over here.
You are bloody lucky to have people like stoi, and other staffers around.

The fact that you abuse what we spend a lot of our time doing out of the good of our hearts (for free) will eventually drive us away.
You may think you're all very smart, but you are only acting selfishly.
What's more FST allow you to abuse our kindness and give you their blessing. That stinks.

You can argue all day, but we are not trying to be morally superior, we are trying to protect your interests, maintain a good quality service (which is fucking free) as well as keeping you as secure as we can.

This thread goes against all of that. Fuck this thread and fuck the people that think it's ok.

[Duckater]

I can't see it happening any time soon, but maybe, just maybe some of you will realise that tracker staff like stoi and myself are actually trying to help you.
I can only speak for myself I suppose but I don't post advice in the BT section in an attempt to battle against anyone.

I genuinely take time out of helping you (The BT users) elsewhere to try and help over here.
You are bloody lucky to have people like stoi, and other staffers around.

The fact that you abuse what we spend a lot of our time doing out of the good of our hearts (for free) will eventually drive us away.
You may think you're all very smart, but you are only acting selfishly.
What's more FST allow you to abuse our kindness and give you their blessing. That stinks.

You can argue all day, but we are not trying to be morally superior, we are trying to protect your interests, maintain a good quality service (which is fucking free) as well as keeping you as secure as we can.

This thread goes against all of that. Fuck this thread and fuck the people that think it's ok.

Here here :D:D:D

/me wonders how much time and effort some members here spend finding out how much effort and time is put into running a tracker, even a small one that only has a few members.
Well I can not answer for other site peeps but we put literally hours and hours in every week.
What do we get out of these hours and hours spent is a good question, well some please, heart ache and in my case a divorce. Some times I spend over 12 hrs a day at me pc watching various things and then come to threads like this and for members of here having ago at a site owner who is trying to protect his site and members coz of this topic.
If there was not one single topic like this on the net sites would not have a value and be posted on place like ebay for invite and account sales.

[Agrajag]

Would I be out of order in pointing out that the whole concept of filesharing is sharing files.

As such there shouldn't be any worth (he probably means value but that's semantics) placed upon anything. It should be a case of sharing what you have with others and trust they will do the same. However no questions asked, real sharers provide the files and their time, with no expectation of a return other than the occasional "thanks for that".

As soon as someone puts a worth (or value) on anything then they are talking about commerciality, which is exactly the opposite of sharing. It's what sharers are against.

How can people talk about filesharing and talk about that at the same time, it's madness. Unless of course you have an agenda, to split the community apart. Divide and conquer, that would make sense.

[flamers]

Would I be out of order in pointing out that the whole concept of filesharing is sharing files.

As such there shouldn't be any worth (he probably means value but that's semantics) placed upon anything. It should be a case of sharing what you have with others and trust they will do the same. However no questions asked, real sharers provide the files and their time, with no expectation of a return other than the occasional "thanks for that".

As soon as someone puts a worth (or value) on anything then they are talking about commerciality, which is exactly the opposite of sharing. It's what sharers are against.

How can people talk about filesharing and talk about that at the same time, it's madness. Unless of course you have an agenda, to split the community apart. Divide and conquer, that would make sense.


If trackers are more valuable, people have to know, n00bs can't just join in.commerciality is a predectable and acceptable aspect.

[Duckater]

Yes it is about sharing but there also needs to be a security element, which this thread does damage too.
A lot of sites these days ban people for uploading what they got from them to other sites which is also imho opinion damaging those sites as it means it harder for the smaller sites to get stuff up so quick and this would then take some attention off them.
But that is just my opinion as I don't need to use other sites uploads for me own site and do not have any problems if people upload stuff from us to any other site as long as they follow our seeding rules :D

[Something Else]

If trackers are more valuable, people have to know, n00bs can't just join in.commerciality is a predectable and acceptable aspect.

You missed the point. They aren't valuable. The value is implied right here. There is none. It is entirely imagined.

If the levels were based on quality rather than rarity it might be a different matter.

[flamers]

Well, even the best linux apps tracker is probably gonna be lvl 2, because noone wants it, but it would have a 10 for content rating, seems fine.

But I think most lvl 2-3s do in fact have better performing alternatives at higher levels.

[integral]

Content ratings would still imply a value, and some sights would be sought over others. Perhaps BCG would be level 10 instead of whatever it is not based on difficulty of getting into the tracker, but it would still be some people's "dream" because of that level.

[flamers]

Content ratings would still imply a value, and some sights would be sought over others. Perhaps BCG would be level 10 instead of whatever it is not based on difficulty of getting into the tracker, but it would still be some people's "dream" because of that level.

So even if a tracker is actually better content-wise, its bad to give the suggestion of aiming for it.....

[stoi]

when we were lvl 4 and closed and exclusive, members wanted us for the rarity, when we went down to lvl 2, they didnt want us anymore, even some members that had been with us from the start.

I got a few PMs saying ewww, we are not exclusive anymore, we went from lvl 4 down to lvl 2, i dont want to be a member anymore cya.

content was still the same, probably even better, but because the E-Penis side had gone, members left.

Personally i couldnt work that one out myself lol, but this is just one of the things this thread does.

whether we like it or not, its bad for the bittorrent community and the trackers themselves.

i just cant see any good in this at all.

People say its to help traders, and thats the only good of it, but i dont even think it helps them, i think it hinders them in a big way, just because a tracker is lvl 7-10 in this list, does not make it any good, or any better than a 1-3 tracker, they are probably worse actually.

and if getting rid of this thread means that members can get back to trading for what they want, not just whats hard to get into, and they may not like, then all the better as far as im concerned.

look at BitmeTV they just opened, members are saying, why the hell did they open, they are going to be down to lvl 2.

SO FUCK, who cares, they are still the same tracker for gods sake.

rarity has just taken over everything else. and its just wrong, and i cant see how anyone can argue any different, the 1 thing that is not imprtant at all, is now, the 1 and only thing that is important.

[Duckater]

This topic is also probably why some new sites get flammed down when they are mentioned here. I will admit some do start up with little knowledge and have very little content when they post about the tracker and should spend some time getting it to a level where they would join and use the site them selves by getting in friends etc and building it up a bit 1st.
I never mentioned GTi on here till it was a yr old and as far as I am concerned it is now running quiet well has a good enough user base that is quiet active.
I am on a lot of trackers where friends are either staff or owners that are as good in the community stakes as any of the top trackers, staff and owner may not be quiet so knowledgable or experienced as some of the hi level trackers.

So I cannot understand why people say they want x or y tracker for the community when they have no or very little knowledge of what it is really like.
If these people spent some time checking new smaller sites out they might find a good home for there needs and boost that tracker and make it better by getting there friends there as well.

P.S. stoi u want me make a campaign to get BCG to lvl 1 :lol:

[stoi]

I tried to get it down to lvl 1, but we sort of stuck at lvl 2, only way we will get to lvl 1 is if we opened all the time, the problem is we have been lvl 4 before, so lots of members make dupe accounts, just incase we do close again and rise the ranks again.

This is [part] of the reason i am letting users have referals, i was going to give everyone 100 of the things, and totally flood the market with them but changed my mind, but users still get them.

you have to be a member for 6 months, have the badge of honour (no hit and runs) 0.7 actual ratio (what you have acctually uploaded), 25 completed torrents in your history, and not Kitty Litter to get these, but even if thats only 10,000 members, thats still 50,000 of these things floating about in the system. but class means nothing in these, if a SPu has only been there 12 weeks, he still has to wait another 12 to get them.

and hopefully members are more careful with who they give them to, because they acctually get bonuses and even promotions if they bring in good members.

I know a lot will be sold, or put on here as trades and giveaways, im not that naive, but if there referers fuck up, we may see them stop doing that, because they cant get any bonuses for bringing them in like that.

and lets face it, everyone likes their ratio, and promotions to higher ranks, even though it does not really mean sod all on most trackers. they still like it.

all im trying to do here, is help newbies and some oldies out that think this thread is the be all and end all of what trackers are worth, its not, and as soon as more members realise this, the better.

[Duckater]

Now that that trades and give aways are seperate may be another option is make it so people have to have been here for a yr and have say 250 posts to access the trade section then they cannot view this topic but unable to trade that way people new to torrenting may not get involved with trading so quickly and may know more about the whole torrenting life rather than just be in a want,want,want mode for high lvl trackers.
I do know this site covers a lot of things and changing the rules may upset some members but I think it is worth looking into :)

[nikita]

ftwr must be lvl 7 now :P