how did your nfl team do?

[j2k4]

I do recall another team which was one dimensional on offense and won the Super Bowl. Didn't Dilfer get a ring when the Ravens only had a running game and an amazing defense? The young Packer D has been most impressive this year. If they can remain healthy and if Farve continues to manage the offense as he has this year, the skys the limit.

It would be nice to see him go out like Elway did in Denver. Then people will finally recognize that he is the greatest player to have ever taken a snap in the game. The only 3 time MVP, he will hold ever record in the book after this year, and the streak - which people still take for granted. This isn't baseball ladies.

The streak alone is probably one of if not the MOST impressive feat in professional sports history.

I should have amended my post to note that, the one dimension being a passing game (especially one in which a grizzled vet is leading a group of youngsters), the Packer offense would be sorely tested in due time.

The running game can only get better, though, so we'll see.

I have, until now, considered Favre to be shade behind Montana, Elway, etc., but have recently considered that my lack of objectivity as re: the Packers generally, and Favre specifically, has skewed my deductive process.

He has never (even in the Super Bowl years) had world-beating talent behind him - Sterling Sharpe was the best weapon he ever had, and Ahman Green's exploits, while occasionally spectacular, never carried the day - yet the numbers have kept piling up.

Elway had much of the same situation for many years, in addition to being handicapped by his extended pairing with Dan Reeves, and Marino had a more settled and longer-term situation with his receivers, but I'm coming to the view that I may have been too hard on old Brett's play over the years...all this totally apart from the fact he is perhaps my all-time favorite sports figure, one of downright heroic proportion, actually.

[Busyman™]

Packers/Bears this weekend still has it's cachet, even given the Bears' recent poor play; Greise is not the answer, as I'm sure Clocker would agree.

As for Favre's habit of tossing the untimely pick, I must admit to a bit of surprise at his play so far this season, especially given the circumstances in each game.

None were foregone routs, and each game has been played under the precise conditions and situations which would have, in recent years, had Brett throwing the ball to the opposition at critical junctures.

The most curious and gratifying aspect of his new habit is that he is taking care of the ball despite the utter absence of a running attack.

I can't remember the last time a team with such an appalling limitation was this successful this early.

The Packers have had the benefit of calls going their way when they were clearly errors by the refs.

The Minnesota game springs to mind.

They will not make it too far without a running game as you said.

I remember my Redskins going 7-0 (or was it 6-0) one season and then lost all the rest of their games.

The Packers are no Cowboys or Pats but I am glad to see Favre play well.

Seeing how weird my Redskins are playing, GB might even beat us when we come there next Sunday.

Btw, the Giants game was a rout. Greasy sucks. Da Bears may as well leave Rex in.

Sure it could.

The Rockies could win the World Series, too.

....they shouldn't have made it to the playoffs. Blown call.

However, they are playing well in the playoffs. Very well.

I do recall another team which was one dimensional on offense and won the Super Bowl. Didn't Dilfer get a ring when the Ravens only had a running game and an amazing defense? The young Packer D has been most impressive this year. If they can remain healthy and if Farve continues to manage the offense as he has this year, the skys the limit.

It would be nice to see him go out like Elway did in Denver. Then people will finally recognize that he is the greatest player to have ever taken a snap in the game. The only 3 time MVP, he will hold ever record in the book after this year, and the streak - which people still take for granted. This isn't baseball ladies.

The streak alone is probably one of if not the MOST impressive feat in professional sports history.

Greatest player ever? OMG what have you been smokin'?

[psxcite]

Well, I believe Elway had Terrell Davis. If not for Davis' exploits those two years (which ruined him and ended his career), Elway would have never obtained a championship. Like j2k4 said, Sterling Sharpe was the best player Farve has ever had on offense with him. If we had grabbed Moss in the off season, it would have been sick.

And as to Farve being the greatest of all time, sure numbers aren't everything. But when you hold every record in the book (as he will after this year), only player to get 3 MVPs, and a streak which can only be described as unbelieveable ,at a position that is no doubt THE most important in the game, and oh yeah...he does have a ring.

Please tell me who is better? Montana? He had the greatest receiver in history. Elway? C'mon, the Orange Crush and the running game were phenomenal for years. Marino is the only player who could give him a run for his money, and he even had a great deal of talent surrounding him. Farve has taken coal and turned it into diamonds time after time.
Please tell me who is greater? And I bet you if you asked THEM, they would say Farve is the man.

Just imagine if he plays another year or two.

[j2k4]

The Packers are no Cowboys or Pats but I am glad to see Favre play well.

And I am glad to see someone spell Favre correctly.

Would that someone back down the line had ever insisted it be pronounced correctly as well.

As to the rest, I must term the Packers' victories legitimate, even viewed objectively.

I will grant that from all appearances so far that the Cowboys and Pats are superior teams, but, as Clocker has noted, things can change... maybe this kid Grant or someone else can emerge (as Romo has, yes?) as a running back.

All I know is I have a little more rooting interest this year than I anticipated, for which I am glad.

[Busyman™]

Well, I believe Elway had Terrell Davis. If not for Davis' exploits those two years (which ruined him and ended his career), Elway would have never obtained a championship. Like j2k4 said, Sterling Sharpe was the best player Farve has ever had on offense with him. If we had grabbed Moss in the off season, it would have been sick.

And as to Farve being the greatest of all time, sure numbers aren't everything. But when you hold every record in the book (as he will after this year), only player to get 3 MVPs, and a streak which can only be described as unbelieveable ,at a position that is no doubt THE most important in the game, and oh yeah...he does have a ring.

Please tell me who is better? Montana? He had the greatest receiver in history. Elway? C'mon, the Orange Crush and the running game were phenomenal for years. Marino is the only player who could give him a run for his money, and he even had a great deal of talent surrounding him. Farve has taken coal and turned it into diamonds time after time.
Please tell me who is greater? And I bet you if you asked THEM, they would say Farve is the man.

Just imagine if he plays another year or two.

Who's better?

Elway, Montana, Young, Aikman, Simms....hell I'd say Brady and Manning and they have more games to play.

The streak? Streak don't make greatest player in history, even coupled with A ring.

I'm assuming this greatest player talk came up with him breaking Marino's record plus the 4 - 0 start and I'd imagine he'll play another year to break the overall passing yardage record record.

You wanna talk longevity first with ability? I like Favre.

Best and greatest player....ever? Hell to the no, easily.

[j2k4]

Well, I believe Elway had Terrell Davis. If not for Davis' exploits those two years (which ruined him and ended his career), Elway would have never obtained a championship. Like j2k4 said, Sterling Sharpe was the best player Farve has ever had on offense with him. If we had grabbed Moss in the off season, it would have been sick.

And as to Farve being the greatest of all time, sure numbers aren't everything. But when you hold every record in the book (as he will after this year), only player to get 3 MVPs, and a streak which can only be described as unbelieveable ,at a position that is no doubt THE most important in the game, and oh yeah...he does have a ring.

Please tell me who is better? Montana? He had the greatest receiver in history. Elway? C'mon, the Orange Crush and the running game were phenomenal for years. Marino is the only player who could give him a run for his money, and he even had a great deal of talent surrounding him. Farve has taken coal and turned it into diamonds time after time.
Please tell me who is greater? And I bet you if you asked THEM, they would say Farve is the man.

Just imagine if he plays another year or two.

Who's better?

Elway, Montana, Young, Aikman, Simms....hell I'd say Brady and Manning and they have more games to play.

The streak? Streak don't make greatest player in history, even coupled with A ring.

I'm assuming this greatest player talk came up with him breaking Marino's record plus the 4 - 0 start and I'd imagine he'll play another year to break the overall passing yardage record record.

You wanna talk longevity first with ability? I like Favre.

Best and greatest player....ever? Hell to the no, easily.

Actually, a relatively easy and convincing argument can be made that no quarterback to play in the past 35 years is the equal of Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

Who was the last "great" quarterback to call his own plays, ftw.

[psxcite]

I can't believe you even mentioned Aikman in that group. Your football credability just went down the shitter. He had one of the best running backs in the history of the league, Micheal Irvin (nuff said), Moose, and one of the most under appreciated tight ends in Novachek. Not to mention JJ and that hellafied defense - and he is one of the greatest?!

I suppose Trent Dilfer should be one of the greatest too since he got a ring and managed not to blow it for the Ravens, eh? Or maybe Doug Williams?


Aikman, pfft. I still can't believe they inducted that fraud.

[clocker]

I am glad to see someone spell Favre correctly.

If he cared about the spelling he wouldn't insist on the pronunciation.

As you obliquely noted...

[psxcite]

Haven't you ever seen "Something about Mary"?

[j2k4]

Haven't you ever seen "Something about Mary"?

Yes, but I live in the real world, and I'm a bit of a stickler about such things.

I have a problem with the trend toward bendo-flexy definitions of words, and phonetic transpositions make my eyes bleed.