Public Employee Unions Must Be Crushed !

[999969999]

9, the fact is, you don't have enough information to either "hate" or approve of unions.
90% of your posts are unfiltered Fox newspap and the remaining 10% are clueless in the extreme.

You wanna outsource government jobs, eh?
Say, turn the fire department over to the same folks who perform Comcast home service?
Good luck with that.

"Rural/Metro Fire Department's history goes back more than 50 years, when founder Lou Witzeman became concerned that his neighborhood lacked fire protection. He pulled together some money, bought a fire truck, and asked his neighbors to support this fledgling company.

With the company was also born a new way of thinking about fire protection and safety services. As a private sector company that partners with communities, Rural/Metro is dedicated to finding the most cost-effective ways to deliver the highest quality ambulance transportation and fire protection services."



Yes, I want to outsource and privatize as many government jobs as possible. Hopefully it will help destroy what is left of the unions in this country. And as Rural Metro has shown, a private company can provide excellent fire protection and ambulance service at a reasonable cost. Consumers then have the right and freedom to choose whether or not they want to pay for that service and protection or just roll the dice and take their chances that they won't need to ever use it, and then deal with the consequences themselves.

[mjmacky]

Yes, I want to outsource and privatize as many government jobs as possible. Hopefully it will help destroy what is left of the unions in this country. And as Rural Metro has shown, a private company can provide excellent fire protection and ambulance service at a reasonable cost. Consumers then have the right and freedom to choose whether or not they want to pay for that service and protection or just roll the dice and take their chances that they won't need to ever use it, and then deal with the consequences themselves.

The point that you missed here is that it can really only work in a sparsely populated rural environment. This wouldn't succeed in urban areas, especially in situations where many residential units are in very close proximity of each other. Whether it be a separate cost or built into the rent, the "private" costs would be extremely high. There would also be no margin of "opting" out as you propose. If you are at the point where you'd have the government managing pretty much nothing... it would seem that you are with me in idealizing a complete anarchist society. You can't just leave your foot halfway through the door.

[clocker]

I wonder...
After demonizing their work ethic, "crushing" their union and drastically cutting pay...who is going to want to be a civil servant in the future?

[mjmacky]

I wonder...
After demonizing their work ethic, "crushing" their union and drastically cutting pay...who is going to want to be a civil servant in the future?

Oh nooos, that's sounds like foresight, don't be silly... this is a politics thread

[j2k4]

I wonder...
After demonizing their work ethic, "crushing" their union and drastically cutting pay...who is going to want to be a civil servant in the future?

Hopefully far fewer than do currently.

I will remind you I was civil service for years, union as well as non-rep.

It was a pretty sweet deal.

I concluded that no one should ever feel that comfy; it's just not healthy.

[megabyteme]

I concluded that no one should ever feel that comfy; it's just not healthy.

How about the heirs of successful business owners?

[j2k4]

I concluded that no one should ever feel that comfy; it's just not healthy.

How about the heirs of successful business owners?

I don't know that many of them are overly sated because they are civil servants - do you?

[clocker]

So, let's clarify...
It's OK for the head of a bank to make millions but a civil servant should never aspire to income over subsistence level, eh?
In fact, the people who weave the fabric of your life shall be stripped of the benefits that anyone in the private sector would barter for (and commonly, receive).

Why not just impress prisoners into government work?

[mjmacky]

Don't most of the high level politicians live pretty comfy, much more than civil servants. You're bragging about the lower rung aren't you?

[bigboab]

So, let's clarify...
It's OK for the head of a bank to make millions but a civil servant should never aspire to income over subsistence level, eh?
In fact, the people who weave the fabric of your life shall be stripped of the benefits that anyone in the private sector would barter for (and commonly, receive).

Why not just impress prisoners into government work?

That works the other way over here.